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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #165 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 12:16am ha ha heehee you are hilarious ...you know that don't you.?? a real cack.!! what globalist thugs have YOU had to deal with? Hmm? You are suggesting you have credibility????
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #167 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 12:50am Paddy goes into a Dublin Florist shop and says, "I would like to buy a bunch of flowers for my girlfriend". The florist looked at him and said, "Certainly Sir, what is it you're after?" "A root ", Paddy replies.
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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #168 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:36am

Soren wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

Soren, if you had classified info exposing the labor government would you leak it?

Discernment.

Not everything is the same.

You use discernment.

Resentment is a poor guide to action. As a lefty bozo, you should cherish that piece of advice as the best you have ever received.

But you won't.

You are a lefty. Discernment means nothing to you bozos.

Ahhh so the correct judgement is anything to bring down gillard would be acceptable but exposing war crimes by the yanks is bad. Nice "discernment".

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Reply #169 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:38am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:16pm:

Yeah, sure. But I am not holed up in some banana republic's embassy.

How bloody pathetic is that??

Haha
Yes. That made me laugh.

Why? Oh i forgot you dont consider what the yanks did killing civilians even war crimes so of course you dont like it being exposed.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #170 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:40am

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

athos wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

In my opinion he knowingly and willingly broke the law ... and should be punished for it ... we live in a society where the end doesn't justify the means .. no one can deliberately break the law and whinge when the authorities come after them, why should Assange be any different..

Did you know that the "sex crime" against Assange was from two women who admittedly had consensual sex with him. It's about the use, or not use of a condom. This is totally political. If America wants Assange, then charge him and try to extradite him to America. If you want to charge, try, and execute Assange, then do it openly. The Brits and the Swedes need to remove that brown stuff from the end of their noses and send it back to G.Bsh

Asdsnage knew that if he published classified documents from various governments they would come after him ... he shouldn't cry the poor victim now .... i know if I kick a pitbull, he'll bite ..and if I don't know it and i kick him I probably deserve to get bitten anyway ... who is Assange to decide what can and cannot be classified and what is or is not in the public interest ?... as for what the Swedish are charging him, if he's innocent, what's he hiding from?

Ahh but he did it anyway because we the ppl needed to know.

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Reply #171 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:44am

Emma wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 11:02pm:

What planet do you reside on smithy? Tongue

A rabid pit-bull only has one solution... SEVERAL bullets to the brain and heart.

So, perhaps??? the analogy is not so sound after all?
No-one wants to see global conflict,.... and if we're lucky the war will be fought on the economic front , principally, so maybe formally wealthy comfy people might go hungry, but what price world peace???
Isn't that an eternal question.? Huh

Wrong, I've seen many pit bulls that are great companions when treated with the respect they deserve ... you follow the rules that apply to him, he won't bite.

And what war? I didn't realise we were at war with anyone. Assange didn't do anything for the good of mankind, I don't believe any of that rubbish for a minute. He did it to build his little empire .. the problem with empire building is that it's never guaranteed and failure comes at a price.

Governments good or bad are voted in by the people to represent them and ultimately they must answer the people they serve, Assange nominated himself as overlord and overseer of everything ...who the hell is he? I certainly don't trust him anymore than I do any politician. .....

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #172 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:47am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:40am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

athos wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

In my opinion he knowingly and willingly broke the law ... and should be punished for it ... we live in a society where the end doesn't justify the means .. no one can deliberately break the law and whinge when the authorities come after them, why should Assange be any different..

Did you know that the "sex crime" against Assange was from two women who admittedly had consensual sex with him. It's about the use, or not use of a condom. This is totally political. If America wants Assange, then charge him and try to extradite him to America. If you want to charge, try, and execute Assange, then do it openly. The Brits and the Swedes need to remove that brown stuff from the end of their noses and send it back to G.Bsh

Asdsnage knew that if he published classified documents from various governments they would come after him ... he shouldn't cry the poor victim now .... i know if I kick a pitbull, he'll bite ..and if I don't know it and i kick him I probably deserve to get bitten anyway ... who is Assange to decide what can and cannot be classified and what is or is not in the public interest ?... as for what the Swedish are charging him, if he's innocent, what's he hiding from?

Ahh but he did it anyway because we the ppl needed to know.

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what did we need to know? I've already forgotten most of what he released thats how important it was . How did we survive the last 200 yrs of government confidentiality and secrets without Assange? ..

he did it fine, now he needs to face up to his actions

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #173 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:53am

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:47am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:40am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

athos wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

In my opinion he knowingly and willingly broke the law ... and should be punished for it ... we live in a society where the end doesn't justify the means .. no one can deliberately break the law and whinge when the authorities come after them, why should Assange be any different..

Did you know that the "sex crime" against Assange was from two women who admittedly had consensual sex with him. It's about the use, or not use of a condom. This is totally political. If America wants Assange, then charge him and try to extradite him to America. If you want to charge, try, and execute Assange, then do it openly. The Brits and the Swedes need to remove that brown stuff from the end of their noses and send it back to G.Bsh

Asdsnage knew that if he published classified documents from various governments they would come after him ... he shouldn't cry the poor victim now .... i know if I kick a pitbull, he'll bite ..and if I don't know it and i kick him I probably deserve to get bitten anyway ... who is Assange to decide what can and cannot be classified and what is or is not in the public interest ?... as for what the Swedish are charging him, if he's innocent, what's he hiding from?

Ahh but he did it anyway because we the ppl needed to know.

SOB

what did we need to know? I've already forgotten most of what he released thats how important it was . How did we survive the last 200 yrs of government confidentiality and secrets without Assange? ..

he did it fine, now he needs to face up to his actions

2 main ones:

yank war crimes
ACTA

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #174 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:59am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:47am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:40am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

athos wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

In my opinion he knowingly and willingly broke the law ... and should be punished for it ... we live in a society where the end doesn't justify the means .. no one can deliberately break the law and whinge when the authorities come after them, why should Assange be any different..

Did you know that the "sex crime" against Assange was from two women who admittedly had consensual sex with him. It's about the use, or not use of a condom. This is totally political. If America wants Assange, then charge him and try to extradite him to America. If you want to charge, try, and execute Assange, then do it openly. The Brits and the Swedes need to remove that brown stuff from the end of their noses and send it back to G.Bsh

Asdsnage knew that if he published classified documents from various governments they would come after him ... he shouldn't cry the poor victim now .... i know if I kick a pitbull, he'll bite ..and if I don't know it and i kick him I probably deserve to get bitten anyway ... who is Assange to decide what can and cannot be classified and what is or is not in the public interest ?... as for what the Swedish are charging him, if he's innocent, what's he hiding from?

Ahh but he did it anyway because we the ppl needed to know.

SOB

what did we need to know? I've already forgotten most of what he released thats how important it was . How did we survive the last 200 yrs of government confidentiality and secrets without Assange? ..

he did it fine, now he needs to face up to his actions

2 main ones:

yank war crimes
ACTA

SOB

what exactly were you able to do with that knowledge? the war crimes still happened, and will keep on happening, Acta I don't know much about nor do I care ... but you've named two ... he released tens of THOUSANDS of documents which had no real purpose other than to embarrass governments and promote his own little empire building ... if he selectively released documents such as the war crimes etc, I would have supported his stance ...but the fact that even he admitted he didn't have time to go through everything he was releasing and yet he released them anyway ... well, i had to question his motives and i find them lacking

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #175 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 8:25am

What the New York Times Won’t Tell You About Julian Assange

As you likely already know, Ecuador — after a night in which British authorities threatened to storm the Ecuadorean Embassy in order to kidnap Julian Assange, who has sought sanctuary there for two months — has granted the asylum petition of the WikiLeaks founder, much to the consternation of US officialdom and its mouthpieces.

Here’s the New York Times’ hit piece on the decision. I challenge you, dear reader, to go over this piece and see if any mention is made of the following key and pertinent facts:

– Ecuador invited Sweden to come to the Embassy and interview Assange, or to talk with him via teleconferencing, which is something the Swedish justice system is set up to do routinely. The Swedes refused.

– Ecuador tried to get Sweden to guarantee they would not extradite Assange to the US to face espionage charges. The Swedes refused.

– Assange himself has offered to go to Sweden immediately if they would guarantee that he would not be extradited to the US on espionage charges. The Swedes refused.

Interestingly (hat tip to Teddy Partridge), even as the NYT ignores these key facts, and even as the Associated Press claims without evidence that Americans are “outraged” by Ecuador’s granting Assange asylum, a poll conducted by the Washington Post shows so far a three-to-one approval for Ecuador’s decision. Looks like a lot of folks have found a way (perhaps this way?) to get the news the NYT and WaPo won’t tell them.

http://my.firedoglake.com/phoenix/2012/08/16/what-the-new-york-times-wont-tell-y...

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Reply #176 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 10:31am

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:53am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 7:47am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 4:40am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

athos wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

In my opinion he knowingly and willingly broke the law ... and should be punished for it ... we live in a society where the end doesn't justify the means .. no one can deliberately break the law and whinge when the authorities come after them, why should Assange be any different..

Did you know that the "sex crime" against Assange was from two women who admittedly had consensual sex with him. It's about the use, or not use of a condom. This is totally political. If America wants Assange, then charge him and try to extradite him to America. If you want to charge, try, and execute Assange, then do it openly. The Brits and the Swedes need to remove that brown stuff from the end of their noses and send it back to G.Bsh

Asdsnage knew that if he published classified documents from various governments they would come after him ... he shouldn't cry the poor victim now .... i know if I kick a pitbull, he'll bite ..and if I don't know it and i kick him I probably deserve to get bitten anyway ... who is Assange to decide what can and cannot be classified and what is or is not in the public interest ?... as for what the Swedish are charging him, if he's innocent, what's he hiding from?

Ahh but he did it anyway because we the ppl needed to know.

SOB

what did we need to know? I've already forgotten most of what he released thats how important it was . How did we survive the last 200 yrs of government confidentiality and secrets without Assange? ..

he did it fine, now he needs to face up to his actions

2 main ones:

yank war crimes
ACTA

SOB

what exactly were you able to do with that knowledge? the war crimes still happened, and will keep on happening, Acta I don't know much about nor do I care ... but you've named two ... he released tens of THOUSANDS of documents which had no real purpose other than to embarrass governments and promote his own little empire building ... if he selectively released documents such as the war crimes etc, I would have supported his stance ...but the fact that even he admitted he didn't have time to go through everything he was releasing and yet he released them anyway ... well, i had to question his motives and i find them lacking

Heh i remember explaining the ACTA thing to you before. If it wasnt for him the EU would not have been able to block it. It was already too late for america and australia.

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Reply #177 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 11:20am

Emma wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

yeah...bloody hypocrit.... if anyone has stood up and taken responsibility it is Assange.

If he acted like the people who oppose him..... we would never have known his name..!! WELL?? Would we? Simple answer yeah? NO, we would not.

Now is it clear why your drab and ineffective jabs are so sad.??

YOU just don't get it.!

No other person in today's world has stood up and taken responsibility like Julian Assange. Name me one. Huh . OK - .... sad it is that the US - to date - have unleashed their maliciousness vengefulness upon a young man...likely never to see the day again. And sad they are itching to get Assange, and that is undeniable.!

When ..the world ... and particularly the US, the UK, and Australia, could have used this as a catalyst for change.

But no... we get the same old same old ...... you call Pansi paranoid????

Fools.... but ooooohh these truths are just too hard for your blinkered minds to consider.
Is the world really like that?? OH NO no it can't be... not what I see on the TV!!

SO if I stole loads of, say, medicare and social security records (all clearly marked 'private and confidential") and published them on the internet in the name of transparency, you'd be cool with that?
I'd get on the soapbox and declare that what motivated me was the burning desire to prevent social security fraud and expose how over/underpaid some people are (or some other cockamamie BS made-up motive).
Would you put my pic on your lapel button, too?

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Reply #178 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 11:38am

Soren wrote on Aug 19^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Emma wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

yeah...bloody hypocrit.... if anyone has stood up and taken responsibility it is Assange.

If he acted like the people who oppose him..... we would never have known his name..!! WELL?? Would we? Simple answer yeah? NO, we would not.

Now is it clear why your drab and ineffective jabs are so sad.??

YOU just don't get it.!

No other person in today's world has stood up and taken responsibility like Julian Assange. Name me one. Huh . OK - .... sad it is that the US - to date - have unleashed their maliciousness vengefulness upon a young man...likely never to see the day again. And sad they are itching to get Assange, and that is undeniable.!

When ..the world ... and particularly the US, the UK, and Australia, could have used this as a catalyst for change.

But no... we get the same old same old ...... you call Pansi paranoid????

Fools.... but ooooohh these truths are just too hard for your blinkered minds to consider.
Is the world really like that?? OH NO no it can't be... not what I see on the TV!!

SO if I stole loads of, say, medicare and social security records (all clearly marked 'private and confidential") and published them on the internet in the name of transparency, you'd be cool with that?
I'd get on the soapbox and declare that what motivated me was the burning desire to prevent social security fraud and expose how over/underpaid some people are (or some other cockamamie BS made-up motive).
Would you put my pic on your lapel button, too?

The comparison of yours is ridiculous, please be serious.
Shame on you because of this brave Aussie women.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #179 - Aug 19^th, 2012 at 11:41am Emma wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 10:32pm: yeah...bloody hypocrit.... if anyone has stood up and taken responsibility it is Assange. What exactly has he taken responsibility for?
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