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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #225 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:44am No connection? Assange is being granted asylum by a government which openly represses its citizens and is anti-gay. As a gay man, you will sell out your principles to just be anti-American because of this. Now at least we know where you stand. Appalling.
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Reply #226 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:46am

Ecuador also has more than 200 clinics that seek to ‘cure’ homosexuals.

One victim, Paola Ziritti, said: ‘I spent two years in one such facility and for three months was shackled while guards threw water and urine on me.’ Ms Ziritti said she saw patients being physically and sexually abused and launched a campaign last year to get the clinics shut down.

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This is who woody supports.

Leave you principles at the door.....

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Reply #227 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:59am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

No connection?

Assange is being granted asylum by a government which openly represses its citizens and is anti-gay.

As a gay man, you will sell out your principles to just be anti-American because of this.

Now at least we know where you stand.

Appalling.

You have provided no proof of Ecuador being anti gay. By Ecuador having legislation recognising gay relationships, disproves you.

Also gay posters are not one dimensional and so Assange being granted asylum is not about gay issues. It's more about America's attack of a free media ... and some western countries assisting the yanks.

Now stop trying to derail the thread.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #228 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door. You are a disgrace.
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Reply #229 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:13am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door.

You are a disgrace.

Without a free press, issues like homophobia can not be revealed for what they are.

Top priority is to hold on to freedom ... then grow it.

Then guarantee all human rights.

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Reply #230 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:15am

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door.

You are a disgrace.

Without a free press, issues like homophobia can not be revealed for what they are.

Top priority is to hold on to freedom ... then grow it.

Then guarantee all human rights.

Ecuador.....

Scratch the surface of life in the South American country – as I did this week – and you discover a world of fear under a Left-wing dictator who responds to dissent with an iron fist.

Anyone in this country of just 14 million who dares question his leadership is hauled off to jail on trumped-up charges. Corruption is widespread in the government, judiciary and police.
Most ordinary citizens refuse to even be drawn into the Assange debate for fear of reprisals.
Fabian Loza, 46, was one of Ecuador’s most popular television investigative reporters until he fell foul of the mercurial President, who was elected in 2007.

‘I worked for Gama TV, one of the biggest stations, and I made my name exposing corruption,’ Mr Loza said last night.

‘Once Correa came to power, he began waging war on free speech. If you broadcast or print something he doesn’t like, he shuts you down.
'He has closed six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers.

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Reply #231 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:23am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door.

You are a disgrace.

Without a free press, issues like homophobia can not be revealed for what they are.

Top priority is to hold on to freedom ... then grow it.

Then guarantee all human rights.

Ecuador.....

Scratch the surface of life in the South American country – as I did this week – and you discover a world of fear under a Left-wing dictator who responds to dissent with an iron fist.

Anyone in this country of just 14 million who dares question his leadership is hauled off to jail on trumped-up charges. Corruption is widespread in the government, judiciary and police.
Most ordinary citizens refuse to even be drawn into the Assange debate for fear of reprisals.
Fabian Loza, 46, was one of Ecuador’s most popular television investigative reporters until he fell foul of the mercurial President, who was elected in 2007.

‘I worked for Gama TV, one of the biggest stations, and I made my name exposing corruption,’ Mr Loza said last night.

‘Once Correa came to power, he began waging war on free speech. If you broadcast or print something he doesn’t like, he shuts you down.
'He has closed six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers.

Sounds like the west.

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Reply #232 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:24am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door.

You are a disgrace.

Without a free press, issues like homophobia can not be revealed for what they are.

Top priority is to hold on to freedom ... then grow it.

Then guarantee all human rights.

Ecuador.....

Scratch the surface of life in the South American country – as I did this week – and you discover a world of fear under a Left-wing dictator who responds to dissent with an iron fist.

Anyone in this country of just 14 million who dares question his leadership is hauled off to jail on trumped-up charges. Corruption is widespread in the government, judiciary and police.
Most ordinary citizens refuse to even be drawn into the Assange debate for fear of reprisals.
Fabian Loza, 46, was one of Ecuador’s most popular television investigative reporters until he fell foul of the mercurial President, who was elected in 2007.

‘I worked for Gama TV, one of the biggest stations, and I made my name exposing corruption,’ Mr Loza said last night.

‘Once Correa came to power, he began waging war on free speech. If you broadcast or print something he doesn’t like, he shuts you down.
'He has closed six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers.

Sounds like the west.

But it's Ecuador - that country people on here think are defenders of free speech....

Grin

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Reply #233 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:25am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:24am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

____ wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

Ignoring repression and abuse of gay people (as stated by Amnesty) shows some people like you are prepared to leave all your principles at the door.

You are a disgrace.

Without a free press, issues like homophobia can not be revealed for what they are.

Top priority is to hold on to freedom ... then grow it.

Then guarantee all human rights.

Ecuador.....

Scratch the surface of life in the South American country – as I did this week – and you discover a world of fear under a Left-wing dictator who responds to dissent with an iron fist.

Anyone in this country of just 14 million who dares question his leadership is hauled off to jail on trumped-up charges. Corruption is widespread in the government, judiciary and police.
Most ordinary citizens refuse to even be drawn into the Assange debate for fear of reprisals.
Fabian Loza, 46, was one of Ecuador’s most popular television investigative reporters until he fell foul of the mercurial President, who was elected in 2007.

‘I worked for Gama TV, one of the biggest stations, and I made my name exposing corruption,’ Mr Loza said last night.

‘Once Correa came to power, he began waging war on free speech. If you broadcast or print something he doesn’t like, he shuts you down.
'He has closed six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers.

Sounds like the west.

But it's Ecuador - that country people on here think are defenders of free speech....

Grin

Well their 1 up on the west at present.

The bigger joke is that you think the west are defenders of free speech Grin

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #234 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:27am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:35am: Woody - do you support the Ecuadorian Governments policy that homosexuals should be "cured" by way of imprisoning them and beating them with batons? (Amnesty International). Do you support the way americans in a helicopter shot down civilians? SOB
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Reply #235 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:29am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

what a surprise.

A Government who pansi supports is a human rights violator when you scratch the surface.

So it's the same story concerning Pansi's support of China.

Turn a blind eye and ignore the corruption and violations if the policy is different to the USA?

"Left wingers will usually ride rough-shod over human rights if it means they will get their way. To them the ends justify the means. That's how their predecessors came to set up the gulags"
Margaret Thatcher.

Pansi - you are a walking example of hypocrisy.

IMO all; countries have human rights violations. We only hear about OTHER countries though because they are the "enemy". America is the worst. It makes no difference to the assange thing. He needed asylum and they were the ones compassionate enough to give it to him.

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Reply #236 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 11:32am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 20^th, 2012 at 10:46am:

Ecuador also has more than 200 clinics that seek to ‘cure’ homosexuals.

One victim, Paola Ziritti, said: ‘I spent two years in one such facility and for three months was shackled while guards threw water and urine on me.’ Ms Ziritti said she saw patients being physically and sexually abused and launched a campaign last year to get the clinics shut down.

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how many clinics in america to "cure" gays?

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Reply #237 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 12:11pm

Julian Assange and friends...I have secrets that I do not want you to know and I will sue your ass off if you illegally obtain that information by any means and disclose it. I will defend my fundamental human right to privacy and to be a secretive person and make you pay dearly if you seek to violate that....keep out of our business you communist sticky-beaks...

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Reply #238 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 12:20pm

I don't support human rights abuses by any country, and as someone else has mentioned most countries are at it, even my own.

I can support a country that has both good and bad policies. What's your issue?

Who's watching America's human rights abuses?

Why does China get attacked for their human rights abuses whilst America's abuses are ignored? Something to do with the naughty east I suppose.

I will always be thankful to Ecuador for adopting one of ours.

By making them look bad, you are making Assange into a bigger hero, keep it up, he deserves it.

"If you are not with us, you are against us", is your stupid rhetoric, not mine. I have the brains to be for and against different issues. Life is never black and white.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #239 - Aug 20^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

Julian Assange is a peeping Tom, he is the nosey neighbor, the local gossip - the one who you cant trust to keep a confidence - never trust a person who sees himself as a clearing house for information and other peoples business...especially when he is not elected to act in that capacity and does not feel bound or restrained by normal civilized laws...Julian Assange is no hero of freedom...he is the opposite...

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