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Reply #15 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:53am
 
Mnemonic wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 11:07pm:
When a woman says, "I consent to having sex with you," don't believe her. There's no guarantee she really knows what she wants. If she's wrong, you'd be responsible for taking advantage of her.

The safest way to ensure you're not raping a woman is to ask her to marry you, because I'm pretty sure she won't say yes unless she wants a lifetime of sex with you. If she says no, she's obviously not desperate enough to have sex with you.

It's really a way of turning the tables and eliminating the confusion. If you're not prepared for the trouble that will come from having sex with a woman, don't do it. It's either she that wants it or you that wants it. Because the idea of marriage turns off whatever aphrodisiac you've got in your mind and body and makes you think carefully about what you're doing, it stops both of you from doing something stupid.

While I don't think sex outside of marriage is inherently wrong, it can be really stupid if you're not careful. People need to stop losing their pants and underwear over this.

Whatever Assange did, he was an idiot for doing it. If you wanna have sex with a woman, marry her first!!!! It may not be so important if you're a nobody, but if you're the head of WikiLeaks, you better watch where you put your phallus.


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Reply #16 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 8:08am
 
Ecuador says UK threatens to raid embassy over Assange

QUITO (Reuters) - Ecuador said on Wednesday the British government had threatened to raid its embassy in London if WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is not handed over, and that Quito would make its decision on his asylum request on Thursday.
"Today we've received a threat by the United Kingdom, a clear and written threat that they could storm our embassy in London if Ecuador refuses to hand in Julian Assange," Ecuadorean Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters.
"We are not a British colony," he added in an angry statement after a meeting with President Rafael Correa.
Ecuador will announce its decision regarding Assange's asylum request on Thursday at 7 a.m. (1200 GMT), he added, amid media speculation that the government has already decided to grant Assange asylum.
Former computer hacker Assange, who enraged Washington in 2010 when his WikiLeaks website published secret U.S. diplomatic cables, is wanted in Sweden to face trial for rape.
Assange has been taking refuge in the Ecuadorean embassy in London since June 19. The Australian anti-secrecy campaigner says he fears he could be bundled to the United States where his life would be at risk.
Even if Ecuador gives him asylum, it is difficult to see how the WikiLeaks boss could physically leave the closely watched embassy and head to an airport without being arrested by British police.

http://news.yahoo.com/ecuador-says-britain-threatened-raid-embassy-over-assange-...
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Reply #17 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 9:24am
 
cods wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 7:19am:
why would he not be safe in Australia??????????


no kidding here I dont understand our laws sometimes.. we had hue and cry over Hicks.. hue and cry of Corby... but nothing over Assange..

I dont get it really.I dont know of any harm that came out all those releases.did a plane or a ship or a train get blown up???.. not that I know of.

yet the man gets no support from his own govt.even less from the public here..why is that???

I dont believe this tosh about rape I really dont,they withdrew their complaint.. but the police went ahead.. sounds more sinister??

I dont know if he is a goody or a baddy. it just seems strange to me.


Agree.

Ecuador 1, Australia 0.

Australia has a very poor record of looking after its citizens in overseas countries in the last 10 years. I initially just thought it was the cold heartless neo-con howard years, but nothing has changed since.

We've outsourced foreign policy to the US.
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Reply #18 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 10:21am
 
<<We've outsourced foreign policy to the US. >>
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The Goerge W Bush spiel is well entrenched in the heads of our governments.

"If you're not with us, you're against us"

He's put fear into the Australian parliament. I'm surprised they can make any decisions without the US sanctioning it first.

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Reply #19 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:23am
 
The powers that be are not happy about his asylum and are storming the embassy. Wonder if there will be a war with ecuador?

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Reply #20 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:27am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:23am:
The powers that be are not happy about his asylum and are storming the embassy. Wonder if there will be a war with ecuador?

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Reply #21 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:33am
 
Come on then Julian....

Come on out and make your way to the airport, if you want to go to Ecuador then......


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Reply #22 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:49am
 
"The UK remains determined to fulfil its obligation to extradite Mr Assange in accordance with the ruling of the High Court.

Throughout this process have we have drawn the Ecuadorians' attention to relevant provisions of our law, whether, for example, the extensive human rights safeguards in our extradition procedures, or to the legal status of diplomatic premises in the UK"


British Foreign Office Statement, Aug 15, 2012.


"You need to be aware that there is a legal base in the UK, the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987, that would allow us to take actions in order to arrest Mr Assange in the current premises of the embassy.
We sincerely hope that we do not reach that point, but if you are not capable of resolving this matter of Mr Assange's presence in your premises, this is an open option for us.
We need to reiterate that we consider the continued use of the diplomatic premises in this way incompatible with the Vienna Convention and unsustainable and we have made clear the serious implications that this has for our diplomatic relations."


Letter from the British Government to President of Ecuador, Aug 15, 2012.

Delivered by UK Ambassador, Quito
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You can't run Assange....
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Reply #23 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:53am
 

No more "land of the free".
Not Australia. Not England, and America lost that mantle years ago.

Maybe Ecuador  ?
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Reply #24 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:56am
 
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/alburyj

Some guy filming outside the embassy

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Reply #25 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:56am
 
The United Kingdom takes requests for extradition on charges of sexual assault seriously.

Particularly when the request comes from another member of the European Union with a history of being fair.
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Reply #26 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:57am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:56am:
The United Kingdom takes requests for extradition on charges of sexual assault seriously.

Particularly when the request comes from another member of the European Union with a history of being fair.


Fair? You know what those charges are? They are pretty obviously made up so the yanks can get their hands on him.

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Reply #27 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
Sweden has a track record for being fair.

Sweden has a request in for sexual assault, which carries jail time in the UK, hence it is in the UK's and Sweden's interests that he is extradicted to face these charges.

Whether he likes it or not - he is going to Sweden.
The question is - does he come out or do we go in and get him?
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Reply #28 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 12:12pm
 
I remember the cartoon of a woman in a bank, and the teller comes up and tells her he is sorry, but the cheque she has presented has bounced. She cries out, "Oh no, I've been raped."

The Assange case looks as dodgy as all hell, where a willing, consensual sexual partner, can have a change of heart about a guy and then claim their sexual activities should retrospectively be considered as not consensual, because her opinion of him has changed, it is a patently absurd argument, and unless you are talking about some bizarre and devious form of mind control, that goes beyond the basic flattery that most women fall for, then it should be rejected completely as a valid complaint.

I fear for the safety of Julian Assange if the US get their hands on him, and the probability that this whole sordid drama is not a simple case about women's rights seems pretty bloody clear.
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Reply #29 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
Julian Assange needs to be extradited to Sweden and then to the United States to answer for his actions and the charges against him.  All accusations of rape and espionage are sufficiently serious that this man needs to be responsible for his actions and defend himself - the Australian Government should of course give him every assistance to do that...
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