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Reply #30 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 4:22pm
 
Commonsense prevails, Assange is a filthy wretch who needs to face court for his alleged sexual assaults:


London Police have reportedly entered the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Australian Wikileaks publisher Julian Assange is holed up after his request for political asylum.

WikiLeaks tweeted this morning that two large police vans had arrived ‘‘to surround the Ecuadorian embassy in London’’.


For all you loopy conspiracy theorists, there's nothing stopping the US from extraditing him from Britain if they want him that badly.
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Reply #31 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 4:39pm
 
Shane B wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 4:22pm:
Commonsense prevails, Assange is a filthy wretch who needs to face court for his alleged sexual assaults:


London Police have reportedly entered the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Australian Wikileaks publisher Julian Assange is holed up after his request for political asylum.

WikiLeaks tweeted this morning that two large police vans had arrived ‘‘to surround the Ecuadorian embassy in London’’.


For all you loopy conspiracy theorists, there's nothing stopping the US from extraditing him from Britain if they want him that badly.



1) Julian Assange is requesting political asylum with Ecuador. The UN designation of that is "a fear of persecution based upon beliefs in his home country". Assange is an Australian, he cannot claim asylum from Great Britain or Sweden with Ecuador. Ecuador can accept it but Britain or Sweden are under no obligation to accept that.

2) If the USA appealed for his extradition. The European Court of Human Rights prohibits Great Britain or Sweden (both EU members) from extradicting a person to a country where they mat face the death penalty.

3) Sweden has appealed for his extradition on charges of sexual assault. These are criminal charges - which hold a jail term in Ecuador. These are not asylum based charges, he cannot claim asylum to get around a criminal case which faces a jail term in the country where he is applying.

4) He does not have diplomatic immunity. Being neither a citizen nor a Government employee of Ecuador, Britain has no obligation to grant him such status outside of the embassy. Unless he is given diplomatic immunity by Australia - who have stated their reluctance to be involved in this matter.

There is no way he can avoid being detained basically.
Ecuador know this.
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Reply #32 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm
 
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

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Reply #33 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:49pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

SOB


If the poms are willing to violate international laws just to get Julian coz he didnt stick on a franger while banging a groupie it would seem there is more to this than meets the eye.
Its looking more and more like the yanks are after Julian
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Reply #34 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:13pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:53am:
Party pooper

Anyway the PM isnt married.


It may sound sexist for me to say this but, the PM, because she's a woman is less likely to be accused of raping a man.

mozzaok wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
The Assange case looks as dodgy as all hell, where a willing, consensual sexual partner, can have a change of heart about a guy and then claim their sexual activities should retrospectively be considered as not consensual, because her opinion of him has changed, it is a patently absurd argument, and unless you are talking about some bizarre and devious form of mind control, that goes beyond the basic flattery that most women fall for, then it should be rejected completely as a valid complaint.

I fear for the safety of Julian Assange if the US get their hands on him, and the probability that this whole sordid drama is not a simple case about women's rights seems pretty bloody clear.


I don't think it really matters. It's still Assange's fault. He should have been more careful. It's so easy to blame this on the women we would like to demonise and label as "evil" pawns of the U.S. The powerful men in this world need to start taking better care of themselves and their women.

If you want to have sex with a woman, marry her. I think this was the whole point of marriage, to promise to look after someone with sex as a reward and benefit. Julian Assange didn't promise a lifetime of support and care for this woman and was therefore exploiting her, regardless of whether she "consented." It was never about the puritanical reasons that Christian Bible Belt fanatics say marriage is about. Marriage was always for more practical reasons.

It isn't important if you're an unimportant tradesperson or some other working class, blue collar employee, but if you become as influential as Julian Assange, watch out. Everyone else can have sex with anyone they want, as long as they aren't hurting anyone, but if you're a high profile person it doesn't matter if you didn't hurt anyone. The threat of a law suit is bad enough.

What do Bill Clinton, Craig Thompson, Peter Slipper and John Edwards have in common? One word: sex.

You don't become a political activist or politician and continue sleeping with women who aren't your wife. Political activists like Julian Assange should know that they have enemies and not risk the controversy of sleeping with the wrong woman.

Even if the charges are eventually dropped, Julian Assange is still an idiot and whore for doing what he did. We need to stop pointing fingers at the women involved. If we kept pointing fingers at the women for being pawns of the U.S. what would that prove? That's like double exploitation first by Assange and then by the U.S. and therefore double rape. That just throws the dignity of womanhood out the second-storey window.
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Reply #35 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:29pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:49pm:
If the poms are willing to violate international laws just to get Julian coz he didnt stick on a franger while banging a groupie it would seem there is more to this than meets the eye. Its looking more and more like the yanks are after Julian


Yeah, they seem pretty desperate. But surely this isn't going to be the end of WikiLeaks, unless Assange has special access to important assets like bank accounts and secret codes to computer systems vital to WikiLeaks. Of course his employees could always hack into his personal accounts.

So much for Western ethics and the idea that they would never break the international rules they made for themselves. Yet laws were made to be broken. Expect other nations to follow and all hell to break loose.

Britain will become the first Western country in this century to follow the example of North Korean embassy-assault tactics.
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Reply #36 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:46pm
 
Britain is merely asserting the sovereignty of its territorial native law over that of international law.  There is no lawful reason why Britain cannot enter the Ecuadorian Embassy to arrest a fugitive from justice.  This is not a victim here, this is a wanted man who has the same opportunity as everyone to answer for his actions and be judged by his peers... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #37 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:53pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

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That's for the Swedish courts to decide.
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Reply #38 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:56pm
 
Shane B wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:53pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

SOB


That's for the Swedish courts to decide.


They want to extradite him for questioning..not for a trial
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Reply #39 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:57pm
 
Ecuador could grant him asylum, make him an Ecuadorian citizen and then make him the  diplomat to Britain.
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Reply #40 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 7:06pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:56pm:
Shane B wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:53pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

SOB


That's for the Swedish courts to decide.


They want to extradite him for questioning..not for a trial


What's he got to hide?

Assange is a coward.
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Reply #41 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 7:07pm
 
Britain will not allow the diplomatic process and International law to be allowed to supersede its own superior domestic law or to be used mechanisms to evade justice...If this is what international laws is being used for...its time to crack down hard on it... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #42 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 7:09pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 10:00am:
cods wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 8:26am:
Kat wrote on Aug 15th, 2012 at 7:32am:
Oh, he's one of the white-hats, Cods.
We NEED more like him.




but why no support??????

why is he different from corby or hicks??



There's plenty of support from the 99%. The media have to follow party lines, they can't be seen to side with the enemy.

Assange got support from the Greens, the only government official to go to his trials.

Hicks got support from Australia lol

Howard would have personally strung him up if he had half a chance.

Corby has had support from Gillard, that would be about it though.

Assange is a hero, someone who puts his life on the line for truth and justice.

That's why he is hated by governments worldwide, with the exception of a few.

The oligarchs get worried when someone pokes their nose in their closet.

The way how Australian authorities responded without any intention to protect own citizen is another proof that Australia is nothing else than a little colonial Pome puppet.
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Reply #43 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 7:13pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:56pm:
Shane B wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 6:53pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 16th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Apparently the uk govt is going to rescind the sovereign status of the embassy to get him out. Thats like declaring war.

The sex charges are fabricated. Everyone knows that.

SOB


That's for the Swedish courts to decide.


They want to extradite him for questioning..not for a trial

Yeh for questioning in Guantanamo.
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Reply #44 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 7:16pm
 
Australia will not interfere in the course of British justice other than to observe, assist and advise Mr. Assange in anyway they can within the parameters of British Law...We have full confidence in British justice... Smiley Smiley
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