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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #360 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 4:39am

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 10:18pm:

This guy spent his youth as a hacker to then find a way to make money out of it while discrediting the very authorities that wish to prosecute him for it, and now cretins hail him as their hero? he's no hero ... if he had any integrity or backbone he would face his charges and stand up for himself rather than hide behind some embassy doors .....

Can you prove that? Not even the media is pushing that theory . . . .

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Reply #362 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

sure he's a narcisist. sure he's arrogant.

you reckon tony and his mob and julia and her mob dont share these personality traits.

at least he has some convictions and doesnt carry on like a rabid dog like those in the house of reps.

they dont want him getting any of THEIR power.

power, like coal or iron ore, is a limited commodity. give someone else some and you (by definition) have less.

good luck to him, where ever his type take the world its not going to be any worse then where the current numpty leadership are taking us

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Reply #363 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:34am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am:

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

sure he's a narcisist. sure he's arrogant.

you reckon tony and his mob and julia and her mob dont share these personality traits.

at least he has some convictions and doesnt carry on like a rabid dog like those in the house of reps.

they dont want him getting any of THEIR power.

power, like coal or iron ore, is a limited commodity. give someone else some and you (by definition) have less.

good luck to him, where ever his type take the world its not going to be any worse then where the current numpty leadership are taking us

rather, I would say that if there was a vote in it for them, they would be all over him like a rash..

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #364 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:52am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am:

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

Unfortunately for Julian, he is woefully lacking in the intelligence to articulate the ideas he wants the world to believe he holds (anarchic altruism, perhaps?) and, of course, he'd like to believe he believes in them too.

But he doesn't.

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Reply #365 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:59am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am:

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

Unfortunately for Julian, he is woefully lacking in the intelligence to articulate the ideas he wants the world to believe he holds (anarchic altruism, perhaps?) and, of course, he'd like to believe he believes in them too.

But he doesn't.

probably true, makes him an ideal politician then, Wink

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Reply #366 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:01am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:59am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am:

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

Unfortunately for Julian, he is woefully lacking in the intelligence to articulate the ideas he wants the world to believe he holds (anarchic altruism, perhaps?) and, of course, he'd like to believe he believes in them too.

But he doesn't.

probably true, makes him an ideal politician then, Wink

Maybe, but then he'd have to drop the anarchism and learn how to convincingly articulate beliefs he doesn't necessarily hold.

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Reply #367 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:02am

magpie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 7:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:55am:

julian speaks with more intelligence, rationality and cool headedness than the entire of australias political elite.

sure he's a narcisist. sure he's arrogant.

you reckon tony and his mob and julia and her mob dont share these personality traits.

at least he has some convictions and doesnt carry on like a rabid dog like those in the house of reps.

they dont want him getting any of THEIR power.

power, like coal or iron ore, is a limited commodity. give someone else some and you (by definition) have less.

good luck to him, where ever his type take the world its not going to be any worse then where the current numpty leadership are taking us

rather, I would say that if there was a vote in it for them, they would be all over him like a rash..

yes good point, they'd be like kevvy humping the leg of every UN elite official he stumbled across

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #368 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:04am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 4:39am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 10:18pm:

This guy spent his youth as a hacker to then find a way to make money out of it while discrediting the very authorities that wish to prosecute him for it, and now cretins hail him as their hero? he's no hero ... if he had any integrity or backbone he would face his charges and stand up for himself rather than hide behind some embassy doors .....

Can you prove that? Not even the media is pushing that theory . . . .

SOB

can I prove what? that he was a hacker .. i thought it was common knowledge ... but thats not really the point now is it ... if he was all he pretends to be then he would stand up for himself and face his accussers and not run and hide.....

Mandela was a man I admire ... stood by is convictions no matter what .. he could have run and hidden when he was younger .. but nope, he stood up for what he believed ..

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Reply #369 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:16am

Can I just point out that Assange himself has admitted that he didn't have time to read the vast majority of the 250,000 documents from US consulates and communiques that he released?

So he actually had no idea what he was releasing for the most part.

Some of the items in the documents could have endangered the lives of people and he would never have known.

That, in anyone's book, is nothing short of reckless.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #370 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:26am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

Can I just point out that Assange himself has admitted that he didn't have time to read the vast majority of the 250,000 documents from US consulates and communiques that he released?

So he actually had no idea what he was releasing for the most part.

Some of the items in the documents could have endangered the lives of people and he would never have known.

That, in anyone's book, is nothing short of reckless.

invading middle eastern and central asian countries and stirring up the hornets nest, leaving a smacking big mess and then pissing off is a tad reckless as well Wink

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #372 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:12am

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:04am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 4:39am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2012 at 10:18pm:

This guy spent his youth as a hacker to then find a way to make money out of it while discrediting the very authorities that wish to prosecute him for it, and now cretins hail him as their hero? he's no hero ... if he had any integrity or backbone he would face his charges and stand up for himself rather than hide behind some embassy doors .....

Can you prove that? Not even the media is pushing that theory . . . .

SOB

can I prove what? that he was a hacker .. i thought it was common knowledge ... but thats not really the point now is it ... if he was all he pretends to be then he would stand up for himself and face his accussers and not run and hide.....

Mandela was a man I admire ... stood by is convictions no matter what .. he could have run and hidden when he was younger .. but nope, he stood up for what he believed ..

Can you prove that he was trying to make money out of it. He (and everyone else) seem to be saying he was doing it to get information he believed should be public. He didnt steal anything and wasnt trying to make any money from it. Since your story is different i am wondering where you got the idea.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #373 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:29am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

Address the point though.

Would you not argue that releasing into the public domain private documents obtained illegally without even knowing what is in them is reckless?

Reckless or not , the truth had to get out there, it was worth the risk. It was better that the world was informed of who the real terrorist nation is.

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Reply #374 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:40am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 9:29am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

Address the point though.

Would you not argue that releasing into the public domain private documents obtained illegally without even knowing what is in them is reckless?

Reckless or not , the truth had to get out there, it was worth the risk. It was better that the world was informed of who the real terrorist nation is.

amen to that!

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