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Reply #390 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 5:00pm
 
One person killed in the name of truth and transparency. It is sad that even one person had to die, but what about the thousands of innocent people killed by the coalition of the willing. Do they count for anything?

The world needed to know. We are better off for knowing. Nothing is better than truth and transparency in government, and fortunately for all of us,there will always be people to fight for it.


Drone bombings killing thousands and they are counted as insurgents. Innocent people going about their daily business and blown up by the yanks.

Assange asked the US govt. to help sort out the sensitive information, they refused because they didn't want any information getting out into the wider community.
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Reply #391 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:57pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:30pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:12am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 8:04am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 4:39am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
This guy spent his youth as a hacker to then find a way to make money out of it while discrediting the very authorities that wish to prosecute him for it, and now cretins hail him as their hero? he's no hero  ... if he had any integrity or backbone he would face his charges and stand up for himself rather than hide behind some embassy doors .....


Can you prove that? Not even the media is pushing that theory . . . .

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can I prove what? that he was a hacker .. i thought it was common knowledge ... but thats not really the point now is it ... if he was all he pretends to be then he would stand up for himself and face his accussers and not run and hide.....

Mandela was a man I admire ... stood by is convictions no matter what .. he could have run and hidden when he was younger .. but nope, he stood up for what he believed ..


Can you prove that he was trying to make money out of it. He (and everyone else) seem to be saying he was doing it to get information he believed should be public. He didnt steal anything and wasnt trying to make any money from it. Since your story is different i am wondering where you got the idea.

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easy .. go to his website (if its still up and running, don't know and don't really care)  and you'll find a section that asks for donations and for credit card details  .. that makes it about money ...


Donations. To keep the site up and running. Yeah so?

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yeahhh sure .. and the catholic church ask for donations to help the poor ... been to Rome lately?


I expect now he is in trouble he has gotten a lot of donations but before that - unlikely. Most sites have donation buttons. Hosting etc can get expensive. Its not really a great moneymaking venture though or he would charge to enter the site.

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he gets the money to be a global jetsetter from somewhere .. I'm guessing he's never dug a ditch ....
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Reply #392 - Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:06pm
 
that is correct...
JS you talk garbage,... I guess... I think.... I'd think..." I'M  GUESSING HE NEVER blahblah......."

You are just guessing....  look at some of your earlier posts , not just on this topic, and you'll see a constant.... (if not these words then others) showing you are talking out of your arse./ Smiley Smiley

but anyway in this particular, at least you are honest..... whatever your name is... Smiley 

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Reply #393 - Oct 11th, 2012 at 4:57am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 2:30pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 9:12am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 8:04am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 10th, 2012 at 4:39am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
This guy spent his youth as a hacker to then find a way to make money out of it while discrediting the very authorities that wish to prosecute him for it, and now cretins hail him as their hero? he's no hero  ... if he had any integrity or backbone he would face his charges and stand up for himself rather than hide behind some embassy doors .....


Can you prove that? Not even the media is pushing that theory . . . .

SOB


can I prove what? that he was a hacker .. i thought it was common knowledge ... but thats not really the point now is it ... if he was all he pretends to be then he would stand up for himself and face his accussers and not run and hide.....

Mandela was a man I admire ... stood by is convictions no matter what .. he could have run and hidden when he was younger .. but nope, he stood up for what he believed ..


Can you prove that he was trying to make money out of it. He (and everyone else) seem to be saying he was doing it to get information he believed should be public. He didnt steal anything and wasnt trying to make any money from it. Since your story is different i am wondering where you got the idea.

SOB


easy .. go to his website (if its still up and running, don't know and don't really care)  and you'll find a section that asks for donations and for credit card details  .. that makes it about money ...


Donations. To keep the site up and running. Yeah so?

SOB


yeahhh sure .. and the catholic church ask for donations to help the poor ... been to Rome lately?


I expect now he is in trouble he has gotten a lot of donations but before that - unlikely. Most sites have donation buttons. Hosting etc can get expensive. Its not really a great moneymaking venture though or he would charge to enter the site.

SOB


he gets the money to be a global jetsetter from somewhere .. I'm guessing he's never dug a ditch ....


Emma is right you are just guessing. Thing is I went and looked around a bit and he didnt finish his uni degree and it seems he wasnt doing so well in math. He seems to have worked as a journo briefly but mainly he worked for wikileaks. Thing is he was already travelling when he set it up. Perhaps he inherited some money? Who knows. He has said from the start not to harm the systems they hack into in any way though. In fact he bought that information he published rather than getting it himself.

Basically im saying i cant be sure you are are wrong but the guy seems to have principles. I guess we will have to wait and see. It doesnt cost as much to travel as you might thing and i can find no mention of him owning anything - houses cars etc . . .If he made money from embezzling from hacking he didnt make much. I am still doubting it but need more information.

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Reply #394 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 7:49am
 
O I love it when the truth is revealed. What a dirty, rotten, lying bunch of politicians we have.

Assange was right not to trust Australia, he's also right to sue their sneaky rs's off. Bob Carr, you scum bag, you stood in front of the people of Australia and told a despicable lie, you are filth.

When are we going to make our politicians accountable? They should be charged with lying to the people who pay their wages.

This is more proof that we are as corrupt as America.

Where is my beautiful Australia? What happened to you?

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US and Australia in cahoots for years over Assange intel

Australia has been handing key intelligence on Julian Assange to Washington for over two years. Newly-released cables indicate the US conducted an “active and vigorous enquiry” as early as 2010 to ascertain if they could try Assange for espionage.

­The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) revealed it had been in cahoots with the US over the Assange case for over two years, saying it had turned over documents as early as 2010 that pertained to the whistleblower’s activities.

One of the cables dated November 2011 includes a communiqué between former Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd and former Attorney-General Robert McClelland on the subject of how best to prosecute Assange.

The cable stipulates that the most successful route to prosecution “would be to show that Mr. Assange had acted as a co-conspirator – soliciting, encouraging or assisting [US Army private] Bradley Manning, to obtain and provide the documents.”

US officials put pressure on Canberra following the release of thousands of cables, saying that “the WikiLeaks case was unprecedented both in its scale and nature.”

The government body also confirmed they had sent intelligence to the US government on June 1 prior to Assange’s appeal of his extradition to Sweden to be questioned over sexual assault charges.

The Australian government had previously refuted claims that they had any knowledge of a conspiracy to put Assange to trial in the US.

“I've received no hint that they've got a plan to extradite him to the US … I would expect that the US would not want to touch this,” said Australian Foreign Minister Bob Carr in June.

However, in August Australian officials confirmed that the country's diplomatic mission in Washington has been prepping for Assange's possible extradition to the US calling it "contingency planning."

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Assange strikes back

Assange announced he would sue Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard over false claims that WikiLeaks acted illegally when they leaked 250,000 US diplomatic cables in 2010.

The whistleblower said that the PM’s claims prompted Mastercard Australia to join the financial blockade of WikiLeaks.

Assange told activist group Get Up! In an interview in the Ecuadorian Embassy where he is currently held up evading arrest that Gillard statements “directly affect the financial viability of WikiLeaks.''

''We are considering suing for defamation. So I have hired lawyers in Sydney and they are investigating the different ways in which we can sue Gillard over that statement,” said Assange.

Assange has been holed up for four months in London’s the Ecuadorian Embassy where he has been granted political asylum by the country’s government. However, he has thus far been unable to leave as UK authorities have threatened to arrest him and extradite him to Sweden should he set foot outside the embassy.

Assange has repeatedly voiced fears that once in Sweden he would be handed over to US authorities to be put to trial.

http://rt.com/news/australia-us-intelligence-assange-773/
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Reply #395 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 7:55am
 
How's the embassy Julian?

Getting out much?

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What price treachery eh?
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Reply #396 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 8:47am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 20th, 2012 at 7:55am:
How's the embassy Julian?

Getting out much?

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


What price treachery eh?


Here @ night again andrei? No social life? Are you going to be here ALL night again?

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Reply #397 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 8:49am
 
Night?
It's not even 4pm yet.
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Reply #398 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 10:41pm
 
Right on Pansi...!!



To suggest there is NO conspiracy, over the punishment of Assange by the US, for his legal actions thru WikiLeaks,.. is farcical, facile and fascist.  And a whole lot more.
LEGAL in the sense that there seem to be no specific laws against what occurred, and that what did happen, and hopefully, will continue to happen,  is 
perfectly in line with the creed of freedom of speech,
..so loudly proclaimed by Americans as an inalienable right.!!
Such hypocricy is impossible to ignore.

That Carr and cronies lied about it, is no surprise. It is after all ,  part of the conspiracy. Part of the game they long to be part of.  Angry

Perhaps he, and Gillard, don't realise just how much they have been used and manipulated by US agencies.. ?  Roll Eyes after all, they think they are 'people of the world' ,  when in fact they are just minor players on the world scene,  to be used and abused as those more nefarious, and much more practised at this sort of gameplaying, see fit.

CARR has no excuse.  I'd say he's the worst 'foreign minister' since Downer.   Grin Roll Eyes
Albeit in a much more devious, weaselly fashion.!  Grin

And , they got their reward...!!   Australia on the UN Security Council
( for 2 yrs)


And for those like ndrehicksville - go somewherelse... your nasty negativity is not welcome...you are a fascist and consumer, a rabid narcissist  ..  who has sold their 'soul' for money. Nothing you say is valid, but it annoys me just enough to reply.  Altho, considering I think you are a narcissistic parasite, I'll not mention YOU again.

I DO give Gillard the benefit of the doubt.... despite her determined statement that Assange had performed illegal activities. 
These sorts of intrigues,  are not hers, by her nature.
She was IMO very badly advised in respect of Assange, by who knows whom,??,  ...  and I hope she will redeem herself. 




 
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Reply #399 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 5:02am
 
Does the mainstream media get charged with crimes for exposing things? Eg captain emad? They should have been charged with crimes because they stuffed up a police investigation causing the guy to get away.

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