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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #60 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am to the ppl that support this treatment of Assange: if this is allowed to happen like this what if you need help some time in the future? This is setting a very bad precedent. SOB
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Reply #61 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:16am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

to the ppl that support this treatment of Assange: if this is allowed to happen like this what if you need help some time in the future? This is setting a very bad precedent.

SOB

The people that support this are nothing more than sheeples of the American regime, just like our media who are too afraid to cross party lines to report the truth.

Then we look back in amazement at why Hitler got away with it for so long. Nothing has been learnt from history, we make the same mistakes over and over.

How can so many people be so blind to what's happening? It's like the exist in a cocoon. Maybe they don't want to see the big picture because they know they won't like what they see. Or maybe just lazy or they have their minds on more important matters like Big Brother and the X Factor.

Personally, I'd rather be informed, it's much safer.

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Reply #62 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:29am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

to the ppl that support this treatment of Assange: if this is allowed to happen like this what if you need help some time in the future? This is setting a very bad precedent.

SOB

The people that support this are nothing more than sheeples of the American regime, just like our media who are too afraid to cross party lines to report the truth.

Then we look back in amazement at why Hitler got away with it for so long. Nothing has been learnt from history, we make the same mistakes over and over.

How can so many people be so blind to what's happening? It's like the exist in a cocoon. Maybe they don't want to see the big picture because they know they won't like what they see. Or maybe just lazy or they have their minds on more important matters like Big Brother and the X Factor.

Personally, I'd rather be informed, it's much safer.

Britain, Sweden and the USA refused to guarantee Ecuador that Assange would not be extradited to the USA so its obvious it has been a set up all along

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #63 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:39am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:29am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

to the ppl that support this treatment of Assange: if this is allowed to happen like this what if you need help some time in the future? This is setting a very bad precedent.

SOB

The people that support this are nothing more than sheeples of the American regime, just like our media who are too afraid to cross party lines to report the truth.

Then we look back in amazement at why Hitler got away with it for so long. Nothing has been learnt from history, we make the same mistakes over and over.

How can so many people be so blind to what's happening? It's like the exist in a cocoon. Maybe they don't want to see the big picture because they know they won't like what they see. Or maybe just lazy or they have their minds on more important matters like Big Brother and the X Factor.

Personally, I'd rather be informed, it's much safer.

Britain, Sweden and the USA refused to guarantee Ecuador that Assange would not be extradited to the USA so its obvious it has been a set up all along

The yanks have been after him from the day the first leaks were released.

Bob Carr is as weak as p1ss, he must know that Assanges life is on the line and he keeps going on with the same lies. " they haven't indicated to me that they have any interest in him". Carr is a liar or or a complete twat or both, yeah both.

I hate it that Australia is too gutless to protect its own citizens.

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Reply #64 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:27am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:39am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:29am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:16am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

to the ppl that support this treatment of Assange: if this is allowed to happen like this what if you need help some time in the future? This is setting a very bad precedent.

SOB

The people that support this are nothing more than sheeples of the American regime, just like our media who are too afraid to cross party lines to report the truth.

Then we look back in amazement at why Hitler got away with it for so long. Nothing has been learnt from history, we make the same mistakes over and over.

How can so many people be so blind to what's happening? It's like the exist in a cocoon. Maybe they don't want to see the big picture because they know they won't like what they see. Or maybe just lazy or they have their minds on more important matters like Big Brother and the X Factor.

Personally, I'd rather be informed, it's much safer.

Britain, Sweden and the USA refused to guarantee Ecuador that Assange would not be extradited to the USA so its obvious it has been a set up all along

The yanks have been after him from the day the first leaks were released.

Bob Carr is as weak as p1ss, he must know that Assanges life is on the line and he keeps going on with the same lies. " they haven't indicated to me that they have any interest in him". Carr is a liar or or a complete twat or both, yeah both.

I hate it that Australia is too gutless to protect its own citizens.

The Australian govt wants to see Assange silenced as well so they are never going to help him.
I can see this getting people out in the streets in numbers similar to the Iraq anti war marches

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #65 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:43am And in the end the yanks will torture and maybe even kill him or lock him up for life SOB
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #66 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:15am Come on then Julian..... Come make a run for the airport.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Reply #67 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:17am

The Australians?

This is a matter of a man holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy having broken the law in Great Britain and wanted for questioning in Sweden.

Australia have quite rightly stated, it has nothing to do with them.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

1) Julian Assange is requesting political asylum with Ecuador. The UN designation of that is "a fear of persecution based upon beliefs in his home country". Assange is an Australian, he cannot claim asylum from Great Britain or Sweden with Ecuador. Ecuador can accept it but Britain or Sweden are under no obligation to accept that.

2) If the USA appealed for his extradition. The European Court of Human Rights prohibits Great Britain or Sweden (both EU members) from extradicting a person to a country where they mat face the death penalty.

3) Sweden has appealed for his extradition on charges of sexual assault. These are criminal charges - which hold a jail term in Ecuador. These are not asylum based charges, he cannot claim asylum to get around a criminal case which faces a jail term in the country where he is applying.

4) He does not have diplomatic immunity. Being neither a citizen nor a Government employee of Ecuador, Britain has no obligation to grant him such status outside of the embassy. Unless he is given diplomatic immunity by Australia - who have stated their reluctance to be involved in this matter.

There is no way he can avoid being detained basically.
Ecuador know this.

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Reply #68 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 10:27am

The whole Assange issue, is whether democratically elected governments are allowed to keep secret deals they do on behalf of the people they represent, from the people they represent.

Technically a democracy cannot work, if voters are not privy to all the information to make an informed choice.

We have a classic example yesterday, where the greens wanted the details of the TPP tabled. The senate blocked it. This is not democracy. The TPP may not be in the interests of the people of Australia, but we will not be able vote on it, because we will not know of the deal, and the impact may not be apparent for many years to come.

IMHO, only good has come from the wiki-leak leaks.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #69 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 10:41am A free sovereign people needs to be able to protect its security - Julian Assange has endangered us all by revealing classified information to our potential enemies...
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #70 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:11am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:15am: Come on then Julian..... Come make a run for the airport.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That'll teach him for not wearing a franger while banging his star struck groupies
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Reply #71 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:20am

Prevailing wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

A free sovereign people needs to be able to protect its security - Julian Assange has endangered us all by revealing classified information to our potential enemies... Sad

The yanks admitt4ed that nothing he revealed caused any security risk didnt they? They are just not happy because some of their war crimes were outed.

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum Reply #72 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:23am Prevailing wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 10:41am: A free sovereign people needs to be able to protect its security - Julian Assange has endangered us all by revealing classified information to our potential enemies... Who "classified" it, and why ? The only people Assange endangered was the corrupt and criminal.
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Reply #73 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:27am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:15am:

Come on then Julian..... Come make a run for the airport....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That'll teach him for not wearing a franger while banging his star struck groupies

He's a fool.
Previously he was just wanted for questioning on the incident.

Now he has broken the UK law by skipping bail and ignoring the instructions delivered to him by a High Court Judge.

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Reply #74 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:31am

Why can't the Swedes interview him at the Ecuadorian embassy?

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Why can't the Swedes guarantee that they won't extradite him to America?

THE WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could yet avoid extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations after Ecuadorean officials invited the Swedish authorities to its London embassy, offering to host an interview there instead.

Senior Ecuadorean sources said they had sent a formal request to Sweden and would be happy to facilitate questioning between Mr Assange and the Swedish prosecutor in their west London embassy, where the WikiLeaks founder has been staying for more than a month after claiming asylum.

Supporters have expressed fears that the US is seeking to prosecute Mr Assange for his involvement in the US diplomatic cable leaks and would use his extradition as an opportunity to pounce. But Ecuadorean officials said they were also seeking assurances that, in the event of his extradition to Sweden, Mr Assange would not later be sent to the US. (© Independent News Service)

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/assange-faces-probe-over-assault-claim-3181...

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