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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #75 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:34am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:15am:

Come on then Julian..... Come make a run for the airport....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That'll teach him for not wearing a franger while banging his star struck groupies

He's a fool.
Previously he was just wanted for questioning on the incident.

Now he has broken the UK law by skipping bail and ignoring the instructions delivered to him by a High Court Judge.

The more publicity he gets the less likely he is to end up in a cell at Guantanamo Bay being rogered by a German Shepard so I can see why he's creating as much fuss as possible.
Its pretty obvious that if the UK, Sweden and the US wont rule out extradition to the USA thats what the intention is.
Why would the UK and Sweden care about two groupies who got what they asked for, took photos and openly boasted about it after?

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #76 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:41am

Why are no guarantees forthcoming?

If both Britain and Sweden have no interest in sending him to the US and the US claim they don't want him, why haven't these three nations put their signatures where their mouths are?

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SYDNEY — WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange Monday called for diplomatic guarantees he will not be pursued by the United States for publishing secret documents if he goes to Sweden to face criminal allegations.
The Australian, 40, said he is prepared to go to Sweden to face questioning over sex assault claims, but fears Stockholm will turn him over to the US where he could face espionage and conspiracy charges over revelations by WikiLeaks.

"Ultimately it may be a matter of what guarantees the United Kingdom, the United States and Sweden are willing to provide," he told the Sydney Morning Herald from the Ecuador embassy in London, where he is seeking asylum.
Assange believes Washington will pursue him after WikiLeaks published a cache of sensitive documents, including about the Afghan and Iraq wars, and thousands of diplomatic cables which have embarrassed governments worldwide.
"For example, if the US were to guarantee (it would) drop the grand jury investigation and any further investigation of WikiLeaks publishing activity, that would be an important guarantee ... diplomatic commitments do have some weight," he said.

Australia has also dismissed the idea that Washington is keen to get Assange, with Foreign Minister Bob Carr saying Sunday there was "no hint" of a plan to extradite him to the United States.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5juNu7AD08LPbrqXibOf5VLiZ_5GA

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #77 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:42am

Worth noting the United States has applied to neither the United Kingdom nor Sweden for his extradition.

Also the European Court of Human Rights prevents both countries (being members of the EU) from extraditing him to the United States where he can face the death penalty.

So he's not broken the law in the UK for a reason which doesn't even exist.

He also by law cannot claim political asylum from the UK or Sweden given neither have persecuted him and neither are his home country.

He can only claim political asylum from Australia.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #78 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:45am

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:27am:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:15am:

Come on then Julian..... Come make a run for the airport....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That'll teach him for not wearing a franger while banging his star struck groupies

He's a fool.
Previously he was just wanted for questioning on the incident.

Now he has broken the UK law by skipping bail and ignoring the instructions delivered to him by a High Court Judge.

The more publicity he gets the less likely he is to end up in a cell at Guantanamo Bay being rogered by a German Shepard so I can see why he's creating as much fuss as possible.
Its pretty obvious that if the UK, Sweden and the US wont rule out extradition to the USA thats what the intention is.
Why would the UK and Sweden care about two groupies who got what they asked for, took photos and openly boasted about it after?

The UK cares because we are a country of rules and laws.
A fellow European Union member has put in an extradition request to speak to a person harboured in the UK on charges of sexual assualt - an offence which is classed as an "A Grade" offence with jail time in the UK.

The UK High Court ruled he should be extradited.
Then he ignores the UK High Court and refuses to hand himself over - claiming political asylum - which as I noted he can't even do.

It's ridiculous.

1/ The United States has made no request to either country

2/ He has broken the law in the UK

3/ He is claiming asylum. He is wanted for a criminal offence, not politically related. He is therefore attempting to evade criminal acitivities.

4/ The only country which can grant him diplomatic immunity is Australia. Australia have openly stated the whole matter has nothing to do with them.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #79 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Why can't the Swedes interview him at the Ecuadorian embassy?

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Why can't the Swedes guarantee that they won't extradite him to America?

THE WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could yet avoid extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations after Ecuadorean officials invited the Swedish authorities to its London embassy, offering to host an interview there instead.

Senior Ecuadorean sources said they had sent a formal request to Sweden and would be happy to facilitate questioning between Mr Assange and the Swedish prosecutor in their west London embassy, where the WikiLeaks founder has been staying for more than a month after claiming asylum.

Supporters have expressed fears that the US is seeking to prosecute Mr Assange for his involvement in the US diplomatic cable leaks and would use his extradition as an opportunity to pounce. But Ecuadorean officials said they were also seeking assurances that, in the event of his extradition to Sweden, Mr Assange would not later be sent to the US. (© Independent News Service)

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/assange-faces-probe-over-assault-claim-3181...

The Swedish police have no jurisdiction in the United Kingdom.
They want to interview him in Sweden.

They issued a warrant for his arrest and presented it to the UK High Court who assessed and believed there is a case for him to answer.

He then broke the law in the United Kingdom by ignoring his High Court imposed bail conditions.

Why is it so hard for you people to understand the UK's position is one based on the rule of law.

We cannot and will not have people in London just skipping into embassies to evade capture.
That is why we brought in the 1987 Act to strip these places of their status in extreme circumstances.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #81 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:59am

"Sure, happy to make a comment on record. Well I would say that in the British Government, we're disappointed with the decision from the Ecuador Government regarding the asylum request of Mr Assange.
Mr Assange is an Australian national, he is neither British nor Swedish so the grounds of political asylum are not valid. I have spoken with both my Swedish and Australian counterparts and we all hold the same view in that none of the fundamentals of the case have changed.
Mr Assange is wanted in connection with breach of bail and for questioning on sexual assault, he will not be granted passage in the United Kingdom. If he steps foot outside that embassy I have given instruction to the Police that he is to be arrested and we'll continue to fulfull our obligations in regards to the Extradition Act.

There is no threat to storm the Ecuadorian embassy nor has there been and its disappointing Ecuador have taken the stance they have."

William Hague, British Foreign Secretary
Doorstop Interview Aug 16th.

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #82 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:02pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

"Sure, happy to make a comment on record. Well I would say that in the British Government, we're disappointed with the decision from the Ecuador Government regarding the asylum request of Mr Assange.
Mr Assange is an Australian national, he is neither British nor Swedish so the grounds of political asylum are not valid. I have spoken with both my Swedish and Australian counterparts and we all hold the same view in that none of the fundamentals of the case have changed.
Mr Assange is wanted in connection with breach of bail and for questioning on sexual assault, he will not be granted passage in the United Kingdom. If he steps foot outside that embassy I have given instruction to the Police that he is to be arrested and we'll continue to fulfull our obligations in regards to the Extradition Act.

There is no threat to storm the Ecuadorian embassy nor has there been and its disappointing Ecuador have taken the stance they have."

William Hague, British Foreign Secretary
Doorstop Interview Aug 16th.

All for someone who shagged two groupies without a franger..its looking more suss the more they open their mouths

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #83 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 11:31am:

Why can't the Swedes interview him at the Ecuadorian embassy?

and

Why can't the Swedes guarantee that they won't extradite him to America?

THE WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could yet avoid extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations after Ecuadorean officials invited the Swedish authorities to its London embassy, offering to host an interview there instead.

Senior Ecuadorean sources said they had sent a formal request to Sweden and would be happy to facilitate questioning between Mr Assange and the Swedish prosecutor in their west London embassy, where the WikiLeaks founder has been staying for more than a month after claiming asylum.

Supporters have expressed fears that the US is seeking to prosecute Mr Assange for his involvement in the US diplomatic cable leaks and would use his extradition as an opportunity to pounce. But Ecuadorean officials said they were also seeking assurances that, in the event of his extradition to Sweden, Mr Assange would not later be sent to the US. (© Independent News Service)

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/assange-faces-probe-over-assault-claim-3181...

The Swedish police have no jurisdiction in the United Kingdom.
They want to interview him in Sweden.

They issued a warrant for his arrest and presented it to the UK High Court who assessed and believed there is a case for him to answer.

He then broke the law in the United Kingdom by ignoring his High Court imposed bail conditions.

Why is it so hard for you people to understand the UK's position is one based on the rule of law.

We cannot and will not have people in London just skipping into embassies to evade capture.
That is why we brought in the 1987 Act to strip these places of their status in extreme circumstances.

Most ppl would not have a case to "skip into an embassy" to evade capture. He has got reason - reason to ask for political asylum.

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Reply #86 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Abusing political asylum laws to evade rape charges is a disgrace... Sad

There are no rape charges

Well of that isn't the latest incredible piece of misogynistic moonbattery logic - there are no charges because he is refusing to submit himself to be lawfully extradited to Sweden for interrogation..

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #87 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:42pm

Prevailing wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Prevailing wrote on Aug 17^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Abusing political asylum laws to evade rape charges is a disgrace... Sad

There are no rape charges

Well of that isn't the latest incredible piece of misogynistic moonbattery logic - there are no charges because he is refusing to submit himself to be lawfully extradited to Sweden for interrogation..

He is being sought to answer questions about shagging two willing groupies bareback.
Geez...Alan Jones does that every day Grin

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Re: Assange Granted Ecuadorian Asylum
Reply #89 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 1:06pm

<<Most ppl would not have a case to "skip into an embassy" to evade capture. He has got reason - reason to ask for political asylum.>>
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And nations other than America's dancing puppets would agree that he has every reason to fear America and their cohorts. He has been offered asylum elsewhere.

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