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The Welfare Board.
Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:31pm

This is the place whewe we can discuss issues relating to welfare.

Discussions about wealthfare are welcome, and WILL be given due credence.

Are you a single mum? A middle-aged unemployed? A DSP recip?

A drug addict trying to get clean and get work? A struggling single-dad?

Been shafted by Centrelink? Tell us about it.

Has Centrelink done well. Have they helped you? Tell us about it.

There is only ONE rule (so far).

Wanton abuse of welfare recipients WILL result in exclusion from
the discussion. Geniune arguments are welcome.

**I'm feeling my way here myelf, so please do bear with me.**

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #1 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:43pm Can we discuss dole bludgers too? I have gotten lots of money from the government. I didn't need any of it.
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Re: The Welfare Board.
Reply #2 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:03pm

Yep, them too.

I just felt that the subject couldn't be discussed on the main fora without threads
being wrecked and lots of abuse being hurled.

At least if they all do it here...it doesn't destroy the rest of this (very good) forum.

I don't know whether this will work, but thanks for giving me the chance...

Thanks, FD, again.

And if you and the other admins want to move threads here, up to
you, but go for it. Best place for some of them.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #3 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 10:32pm Kat wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:31pm: This is the place whewe we can discuss issues relating to welfare. Get off it as soon as you can. (except if you are caring for someone even less fortunate. Then stay and more strength to you.)
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Re: The Welfare Board.
Reply #4 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:01pm

Thanks for your total lack of anything worthwhile, Soren.

The deal is, we discuss welfare here.

NOT dole-bludgers, not single-mums-with-six-kids-to-four-fathers.

And the very reason I started this board was to get away from the
brain-dead anti-unemployed ratbags from PolSux and actually have
a sensible, legitimate discussion about what is, like it or not, a major
issue..

Several of our members, both past and present, have fought for a
better deal for welfare recipients. Some have given up and left Some
have passed away. Some, sadly, have been bullied into leaving
(Vegitamite, anyone?).

I'm not going away.....

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #5 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:16pm Why are you on welfare?
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #6 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 4:26am Soren wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:16pm: Why are you on welfare? Why are you so economically aggressive?
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Re: The Welfare Board.
Reply #7 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:28am

It's a worthwhile topic for the forum Kat.

The unemployed need all the help they can get, we all know the government is doing all it can to stifle them economically and emotionally.

The frightening thing is, what other indignities they will be forced to suffer if we get a Liberal government in power. They're certainly not known for helping the downtrodden.

The pensioners would still be far worse off if not for the Greens twisting the hand of Labor to give them a small increase.

All together pensioners

Thank You Greens Australia

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #8 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:43am

Like dole bludgers? come on down.

I really have nothing against the very few people that we call 'dole bludgers'. The ones that, for whatever reason have decided that work is not for them.

The proportion of funding for them is far less than what is wasted on government 'incidentals', morning teas and luncheons, personal improvement seminars (that no one wants to attend, if they had a choice), and multitudes of other wasteful gimmics that are part of daily life in government departments.

If someone decides that they would rather live on the pittance that is unemployment benefits, all power to them. It leaves a job vacancy for someone who wants to and needs to work.

The 'dole bludger' is so called by jealous people who wish they could do the same, but don't have the intestinal fortitude, or brain power to exist on the the minute amount of money they get.

Who would bother to cry about 0.001% of their tax dollars going to someone who prefers an alternate lifestyle? Not me, I couldn't give a fig.

We will always have unemployed people, so chill out and give them a break!

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:37am Soren wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:16pm: Why are you on welfare? Do I have to be, in order to support those on welfare? I don't play football either, but I still support a team.....
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #10 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:38am I'm with you on this one, Kat.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #11 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:06pm There would be much, much greater support for welfare recipients if there was low or zero rorting. Helping the needy improves social cohesion and solidarity. Conversely, throwing money at the undeserving or rorters reduces cohesion, reduces solidarity.
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madcowmess New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26 Port Adelaide Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #12 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:51pm howdy punters
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madcowmess New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26 Port Adelaide Gender:	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #13 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 6:52pm wondering i am, what is a YaBB ???
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26486 Australia	Re: The Welfare Board. Reply #14 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am Thats a bit strange. Why would a newbie post in this board? SOB
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