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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #30 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:10pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:59pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:56pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:51pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:43pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:38pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 4:30pm:
I am not going anywhere. You're easy meat. A ticking emotional time bomb waiting to explode at any moment.
It is my duty to expose you as morally fraudulent and as someone who has an inconceivable hatred for his own people.
So easy that the only argument you can come up with is faux.
Hahaha I'm sorry I get angry at ignorant fvcks like yourself.

You have failed your duty.

You are clearly the only one with hatred for your people and you have demonstrated that clearly by supporting their deaths.


I doubt I've failed. You've yet to explain where the Taliban hands out as much foreign aid as the West, and why the Taliban system of governance that forbids equal opportunity and a host of other human rights infringements is superior to the West.

You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.


Arh, another one of these 'everything is the West's fault' posts.

Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.

Brilliant logic.


So if that's the only response you have then we will count it as surrender and you have officially failed your duty.


An 'is that all you got' slogan isn't actually an argument.

It is when you haven't given a legitimate response to my point.


I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.

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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #31 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm
 
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I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?
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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #32 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.
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Reply #33 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:
Quote:
You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.
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Reply #34 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:31pm
 
George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's?

America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they?

You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed.

So who is oppressed?
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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #35 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:
Quote:
You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.


I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.
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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #36 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:38pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's?

America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they?

You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed.

So who is oppressed?


1.The war morphed from being on terrorism to a human rights agenda.

2. Women choose to go into porn, have plastic surgery, wear skimpy clothes.

3. The burqa is forced, not chosen.



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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #37 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:40pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:
Quote:
You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.


I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.

There is no cause and effect.
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Reply #38 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:48pm
 
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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #39 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:49pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:40pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:
Quote:
You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.


I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.

There is no cause and effect.


Huh
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Reply #40 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:57pm
 
Looks like someone chinned DRAH with a beauty.
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Re: Afghanistan - The War That Never Ends.
Reply #41 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 7:19pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:49pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:40pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Quote:
I responded with a legitimate point.

Outline the cause and effect sequence to show how the West can be blamed for:
Barbaric Muslims stones adulterer to death = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from education = the West's fault.
Barbaric Muslims forbid women from walking around without a burqa = the West's fault.
If you can explain how that is a relevant response when we were talking about the US giving foreign aid?


So the Taliban is the one at fault here?
Can you explain how the foreign aid has killed billions? I think that needs to be established first.

Haha you loose, I will give you one more chance from the top:
Quote:
You do realise the west enforces the financial system that puts the nations it gives aid to into poverty. Essentially they are stealing billions and giving back pennies.

I never said it was superior? But when your trying to compare it with a system that has killed billions, its a no brainer. I would take your criticisms seriously if I knew you actually cared but you don't and you know it so stop being a hypocrite.


I know you stated this before, but you've got to explain the cause and effect sequence. Assertions means little.

There is no cause and effect.


Huh

you are the one who started talking about it because you cant legitimately respond to my comments so you explain it
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Reply #42 - Nov 20th, 2012 at 6:53am
 

America can't even honour its own deal with Karzai.
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Fighting the ally? Karzai orders Afghan forces to capture US detention facility

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has criticized the U.S. military for violating an agreement and illegally continuing to hold Afghans as prisoners against the orders of the Afghan government and courts.

The deal, signed in March, gave the US six months to transfer the captured Afghans – an agreement the US has not upheld. Karzai released a statement Monday calling the failure to hand over detainees “a serious breach of the Memorandum of Understanding.” The Afghan president also ordered his forces to seize control of the Parwan detention facility, where US forces continue to hold prisoners in a closed-off section, many of which were recently captured.

Karzai spokesman Aimal Faizi told reporters that US troops are illegally holding more than 70 detainees whose release has been ordered by Afghan courts. Afghan courts have acquitted 57 of these prisoners, but the US has still refused to let them go, citing them as a danger to US national security.

The two countries had signed a detainee transfer pact in March, giving the US six months to hand over control of detention facilities and detainees to the Afghans in preparation of the 2014 US withdrawal. Although the official handover occurred in September, the US refused to turn over several hundred prisoners that they felt were too dangerous or that they captured after the deal was signed.

Faizi said hundreds of new prisoners are now being held in the Parwan detention facility and that US night raids have taken in about 100 additional Afghans per month.

US military officials argued that Afghanistan was not ready to take control of all prisoners. They have also demanded that Afghans agree to hold some detainees, who are considered too dangerous to be freed, without a trial. But imprisonment without a trial is against Afghan law, Faizi said. The spokesman told reporters that the Obama administration had been given a two-month extension to make an alternative proposal to holding detainees without trial. But this grace period has now ended.

“These acts are completely against the agreement that has been signed between Afghanistan and the US president,” Karzai’s statement read.

“There is nothing by the name of ‘administrative detention’ in our laws, yet the US is insisting that there are a number of people who, while there is not enough evidence against them, are a threat to US national security,” Faizi said.

http://rt.com/usa/news/karzai-afghan-us-detention-083/
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Reply #43 - Nov 20th, 2012 at 6:57am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:38pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
George W launched the war in Afghanistan as the war on terror. How has it now become the war on burqa's?

America, with the biggest porn industry really cares about women, don't they?

You say women in burqa's are oppressed. They say women who have to get copious amounts of plastic surgery and wear skimpy clothes to please their men are oppressed.

So who is oppressed?


1.The war morphed from being on terrorism to a human rights agenda.

2. Women choose to go into porn, have plastic surgery, wear skimpy clothes.

3. The burqa is forced, not chosen.





Not always on either count

Most devout muslim women choose to wear the burka

How do you feel about nuns?

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Reply #44 - Nov 20th, 2012 at 7:55am
 

It's a western misconception that Muslim women would like to be slutty, they don't. I'm not saying slutty is a bad look, it's just not for all cultures. The schoolie girls and boys in Bali are very slutty, one little lass chose an outfit that displayed her pubes, it could have been an accident or she could be a fashion tragic, who knows? Muslim women choose a burqa, Aussie women choose the pantiless look, who's wrong? Who cares what people wear, it's an individual thing.
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