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Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People'
Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26509 Australia	Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People' Reply #1 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:14pm He doesnt feel bad. He thinks he is "punishing" them . . . . SOB
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People' Reply #2 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:15pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:14pm: He doesnt feel bad. He thinks he is "punishing" them . . . . SOB Well according to what he believes god is going to punish his ass pretty bad.
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Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People'
Reply #3 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

His Bible told him to do it Wink

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Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

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Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

His Bible told him to do it Wink

Quote:

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

The bible says a lot of things but he isn't so entrenched in the kill people who worship other gods as he is the 'gods chosen people' thing and that god 'gave them Israel.

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Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People'
Reply #5 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:34pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

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Reply #6 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

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Reply #7 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

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So can I take this as a surrender and admission of my correctness?
Your going to hell Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

???????????????????????

So can I take this as a surrender and admission of my correctness?
Your going to hell Cheesy

No you can take it you will go to hell if you lie.

I have not committed or said i have done so against anyone at all.

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Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:40pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

The Jews from thousands of years ago who were said to have inherited the land of Israel from god and become gods chosen people integrated into countless different countries and ethnic groups over thousands of years.
This means that today there are countless people all around the world who are descended from them, Including many people in Palestine.
Considering Avram has admitted to committing lethal terrorist attacks against Palestinians, does he feel bad that he has potentially killed gods people?

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

???????????????????????

So can I take this as a surrender and admission of my correctness?
Your going to hell Cheesy

No you can take it you will go to hell if you lie.

I have not committed or said i have done so against anyone at all.

If I was lying then you would be able to prove me wrong.
You have admitted to killing people and you have supported the deaths of others, statistically many of them would be gods chosen people.
Are you sad or guilty about killing gods chosen people Avram?

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People' Reply #11 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:44pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:41pm: show me where i admitted to killing anyone. Avram we both know you have admitted to this so please give a legitimate response/argument or gracefully accept your loss and leave. You are going to hell.
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Is Avram sad he has killed 'Gods People' Reply #12 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:48pm No we both do not know this at all. Because I can say I have NOT KILLED ANYBODY to the best of my knowledge. So show me where you think this was admitted and i will be able to correct it. Otherwise your entire subject is now canceled as a lie.
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Reply #13 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:52pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:48pm:

No we both do not know this at all.

Because I can say I have NOT KILLED ANYBODY to the best of my knowledge.

So show me where you think this was admitted and i will be able to correct it.

Otherwise your entire subject is now canceled as a lie.

So you were either lying to everyone in the past or are lying now, which one is it?
You said you blew up two apartment buildings?
But,regardless you served years in the worst terrorist army on this planet so if you didn't kill people then you obviously were not good at it.

Is your denying of killing people admittance that I am right tho? That if you had killed people in Palestine, many could have been gods chosen people??? Does it bother you that many of your fellow servicemen will be going to hell for killing gods chosen people?

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Reply #14 - Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:55pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

Does he accept that there are Arabs today with more right to the land of Israel then himself? Considering he cannot even prove that he is a direct descendant?

Let's not forget that Judaism is a religion and that some Jews are Arabs.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 1:40pm:

His Bible told him to do it Wink

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:19pm:

The bible says a lot of things but he isn't so entrenched in the kill people who worship other gods as he is the 'gods chosen people' thing and that god 'gave them Israel.

Based on what I've been told, Jews don't actually follow the Bible. They follow the "Oral Torah."

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:36pm:

So can I take this as a surrender and admission of my correctness?
Your going to hell Cheesy

I think it depends whether he's violated one of the Three Oaths. Unless I'm mistaken, they're still in exile. Sad

I think the idea of hell might be inaccurate too. Jews don't look forward to an afterlife. They anticipate a general resurrection (I mean the rabbinical ones, the majority).

Avram would be more concerned about his place in the world-to-come if he's a religious Jew. At this stage, I'm not even certain what kind of Jew Avram is at the moment. Ashkenazi, sephardi, mizrahi? Orthodox, Reform, Renewal, Reconstructionist, Hasidic? Secular, atheist or religious?

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