The apartment buildings.

Just to assist you, I will say once and with no more detail because it is not allowed.

In the 2008 Gaza War we entered into Gaza City, in the edge of the city, we (3 units) come under mortar fire from the tops of two large buildings - more likely is disused apartment blocks or so - then rapid machine gun fire to us as well from high rises windows.

We run away into side streets to get better views of where it is coming from.

Now, it is impossible to fire back into buildings of 100 windows and pinpoint the fire without possibility of being killed or wounded.

The decision is made to radio to control of the situation.

This urgency is then further radioed to Tel Aviv for request of orders.

We are given permission to use which ever response necessary.

Because it is too dangerous for us on the ground, we decide under orders to pull the armored vehicles back and retreat to safe distance and view.
We then pinpoint the mortar position and also the 2 machine gun positions.

We then radio for F-16 strikes.

Less than 10 mins later we have scrambled F-16 Strike Eagles from Ashdod and then fire direct to my and my comrade co-ordinates.

There is no atrocity.

That is all can be said on this matter now thank you.

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This is irrelevant, the point is that god supposedly gave the land to a small group of Jews thousands of years ago who now have many descendants living in Palestine and throughout the middle east and Europe.
According to the religion that Avram follows he will go to hell for killing these people which statistically he has.

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Pretty sad attempt at gaining an argument when you have none.

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There god is pretty specific that the people to whom the land of Israel belongs to are gods chosen people and must not be violated.
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Haha but what about for people who violate gods law like they have?
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Regardless the point here is that the only 'claim' they have to the land of Israel is that 'god gave it to them' but we both know they cannot even prove they are descendants of these people let alone that a god actually exists.
Fact is that these ancient people integrated and many direct descendants are now living in Palestine and many have been killed by Israeli terrorists.

You can deny the facts all you want but Avram has killed gods chosen people.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Firstly its not a war its an occupation, clearly you do not understand English very well.

You have admitted to killing gods chosen people.
Oh uh, gods not going to be very happy with you is he?

Turns out Avram is just a scummy terrorist killing gods chosen people.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 2:48pm:


Pardon me please, for the scrutiny. I was just curious. Surely you served as a soldier in the IDF and was deployed in the front-line and not in a support role? I am asking this question because of things you have said in the past, although I can't remember where. If so, you would have been in a position to aim your gun at someone and unless you were lucky, you wouldn't have had to fire at them.

Mnemonic wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 3:05pm:



Yes I have aimed my gun many times at terror suspects.

I have not killed anyone with this weapon. I have fired - sometimes aimed to wound but 99% fired above the heads as a warning to keep order.

I also add I have used my gun as a threat to Jewish settlers who were behaving poorly too.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 3:07pm:

So you are saying it is ok to shoot gods chosen people?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 3:04pm:


Can you educate us then? How accurate are the bombs/missiles used? How and when do they detonate? How close to the target? What's stopping the bomb from falling to lower levels and causing damage under the target? How big is the explosion?

Any way of hitting the targets accurately with artillery and tanks? Are airstrikes really the only way?

Mnemonic wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2012 at 3:22pm:



All of these things are assessed in the time of minutes with fire coming to you as you can imagine.
This is always considered.

In this situation, the tank could not get into the small street to reach the necessary distance and also bear in mind the mortar fire - which is an anti-tank strategy of Hamas and Hizbollah.

Have machine guns to draw in the tanks and then hit with mortars from similar zones.

The F16 uses strike air to surface missiles, not bombs so they accuracy is very good.

You do know that to call a air-strike is the last resort and can only be authorized by Tel Aviv?

In this case, they approved the action we made.

It was too dangerous for us to stay and we needed to pull back.