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Israel's cruelty to children
Aug 27^th, 2012 at 8:09am

The IDF feels threatened by the Palestinian children throwing molotov cocktails or stones at them and so the imprisonment, shooting and torture of children is essential in their minds. There is no consideration given to the fact that they are stealing and occupying the land of others on a daily basis.

The IDF soldiers, often being young and bored or under orders to raid homes deliberately create riots to stir the West Bank inhabitants up so they can play their deadly games.

It's no surprise much of the world is against Israel. Why wouldn't the Palestinians want to protect their property from these inhumane and primitive land grabs? The Palestinians are the ones who live in fear and uncertainty knowing that the greed of their neighbour can take away their home and livelihood in an instant.

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The release of the testimonies follows the publication of two damning reports — one from a group of eminent British lawyers who visited Israel's military courts and the other from the human rights organisation Defence of Children International — that detail multiple violations of international law by Israel in its treatment of children.

These include Israel's practice of holding Palestinian children in solitary confinement and denying them legal representation, as well as its use of physical violence, shackles and coerced confessions in interrogations.

"It is crucial that people in Israel are confronted about what it means for Palestinian children to live under military occupation," says Yehuda Shaul, one of the founders of Breaking the Silence.

Israeli soldiers - testimonies

"So there's a school there. We'd often provoke riots there. We'd be on patrol, walking in the village, bored, so we'd trash shops, find a detonator, beat someone to a pulp, you know how it is. Search, mess it all up. Say we'd want a riot? We'd go up to the windows of a mosque, smash the panes, throw in a stun grenade, make a big boom, then we'd get a riot."

"The commander gripped the kid, stuck his gun in his mouth, yelled ... The kid was hardly able to walk. We dragged him further, and then he said again: 'One more time this kid lifts a stone, anything, I kill him. No mercy'."

"We would enter villages on a daily basis, at least twice or three times a day, to make our presence felt, and ... it was like we were occupying them. Showing we're there, that the area is ours, not theirs. At first you point your gun at some five-year-old kid, and feel bad afterward, saying it's not right. Then you get to a point where ... you get so nervous and sick of going into a village and getting stones thrown at you."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/israeli-soldiers-expose-plight-of-palestinian-childr...

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #1 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:00am Its disgusting. One day the bigger powers will wake up and stop supporting this BS. SOB
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Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:59am

mantra wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 8:09am:

The IDF feels threatened by the Palestinian children throwing molotov cocktails or stones at them and so the imprisonment, shooting and torture of children is essential in their minds. There is no consideration given to the fact that they are stealing and occupying the land of others on a daily basis.

The IDF soldiers, often being young and bored or under orders to raid homes deliberately create riots to stir the West Bank inhabitants up so they can play their deadly games.

It's no surprise much of the world is against Israel. Why wouldn't the Palestinians want to protect their property from these inhumane and primitive land grabs? The Palestinians are the ones who live in fear and uncertainty knowing that the greed of their neighbour can take away their home and livelihood in an instant.

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The release of the testimonies follows the publication of two damning reports — one from a group of eminent British lawyers who visited Israel's military courts and the other from the human rights organisation Defence of Children International — that detail multiple violations of international law by Israel in its treatment of children.

These include Israel's practice of holding Palestinian children in solitary confinement and denying them legal representation, as well as its use of physical violence, shackles and coerced confessions in interrogations.

"It is crucial that people in Israel are confronted about what it means for Palestinian children to live under military occupation," says Yehuda Shaul, one of the founders of Breaking the Silence.

Israeli soldiers - testimonies

"So there's a school there. We'd often provoke riots there. We'd be on patrol, walking in the village, bored, so we'd trash shops, find a detonator, beat someone to a pulp, you know how it is. Search, mess it all up. Say we'd want a riot? We'd go up to the windows of a mosque, smash the panes, throw in a stun grenade, make a big boom, then we'd get a riot."

"The commander gripped the kid, stuck his gun in his mouth, yelled ... The kid was hardly able to walk. We dragged him further, and then he said again: 'One more time this kid lifts a stone, anything, I kill him. No mercy'."

"We would enter villages on a daily basis, at least twice or three times a day, to make our presence felt, and ... it was like we were occupying them. Showing we're there, that the area is ours, not theirs. At first you point your gun at some five-year-old kid, and feel bad afterward, saying it's not right. Then you get to a point where ... you get so nervous and sick of going into a village and getting stones thrown at you."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/israeli-soldiers-expose-plight-of-palestinian-childr...

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Reply #3 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 11:20am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

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Perhaps those activities would be enough to send you to sleep if you've been there and done all that many times before?

Of course the IDF have to do what they're told - but some go a lot further than their orders to covet.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 11:27am What idiot throws rocks at a tank.
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Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 11:34am

Me - Real experience and 3 years service in IDF. I know what happens and I know what we face everyday. Some people behave badly and receive warnings for it - but worse behaved is Hamas, Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad.

You - Read about it on internet and news sites and is opinions of others.

I have never myself committed atrocity, 99% of fire I have done has been warning over heads of groups but faced fire to us from even teenagers.

So yes, the same boring accusations make me sleep.

We have heard them all before.

BUT>>>>>>

Did you watch the Foxtel last night?
There was a program on Operation Wrath of God.
My father and uncle's time and before I was born but I was very proud.
MOSSAD removing every Munich terrorist kill by kill - you know something?
We never forget and we never forgive.

I have a badge at home

"IDF - Forget nothing, forgive no-one" (In Hebrew of course).

So keep with your accusations, we do not care and see the UN votes? They always fail.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:06pm Quote: My father and uncle's time and before I was born but I was very proud. Of course you were. SOB
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49016 At my desk.	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #7 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too?
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Reply #8 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too?

Pussy babies having a cry over rocks and molotov cocktails Cry

Wa wa wa.
Imagine how much you pussies would whinge if you were getting bombed and had your country occupied by a foreign military.

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Reply #9 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:30pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too?

Pussy babies having a cry over rocks and molotov cocktails Cry

Wa wa wa.
Imagine how much you pussies would whinge if you were getting bombed and had your country occupied by a foreign military.

You would cry like a child if you spend just 1 day with us in IDF.

I dare you to come to Israel and say the things you do.

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Reply #10 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:33pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:30pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too?

Pussy babies having a cry over rocks and molotov cocktails Cry

Wa wa wa.
Imagine how much you pussies would whinge if you were getting bombed and had your country occupied by a foreign military.

You would cry like a child if you spend just 1 day with us in IDF.

I dare you to come to Israel and say the things you do.

Pussy terrorist you are no more brave then a little baby.
Crying over rocks Cry

Pussy

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #11 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:36pm freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm: Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too? If children in australia throw rocks do they and all their families get killed? SOB
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49016 At my desk.	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #12 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:37pm One thing you have to admit about the Israelis. They have balls. Not sure what you hope to achieve by making fun of them. It's the palestinians that end up dying.
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Reply #13 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:39pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Spoken like someone who has never had a molotov cocktail thrown at them. What do you think that would be like mantra? Would you feel threatened too?

If children in australia throw rocks do they and all their families get killed?

SOB

Luckily Aussie kids are not that stupid.

If they threw rocks and molotov cocktails at armed police or military they would get themselves killed, very quickly. A retarded kid with a knife got shot dead a while back.

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Reply #14 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:41pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

One thing you have to admit about the Israelis. They have balls. Not sure what you hope to achieve by making fun of them. It's the palestinians that end up dying.

Haha I don't see anyone but small children crying over throwing rocks.
If they have balls they certainly haven't grown since they were playing tag on stolen land.

I'm making truthful criticisms at them because you are trying to make them look tuff, which evidence shows they are far from.

Didn't see any jews under German occupation having the balls to throw rocks at tanks.

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