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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #75 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:31am

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:26pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:59pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

You are Annie, in this post for example, you try to lay all the blame at Israel's feet.

The Palestinians are not the enemies of the West, FD.

freediver wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

What are you suggesting? That children should be free to throw molotov cocktails and the soldiers should somehow ignore it out of a misplaced sense of children's rights?

If you can't tell the difference between a rock and a molotov cocktail, how do you expect a child to?

I am suggesting that perhaps if Palestinian children weren't so vulnerable to Israeli death squads - maybe if they saw a chance for a decent future - they might not be so quick to engage in provocative and risky behaviour.

freediver wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

You painted a very simplistic picture above.

How? By saying that it's wrong to bomb civilians?

freediver wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:

Throwing molotov cocktails at a tank or armed soldiers is not fear. It is lunacy. The Israelis did not make them lunatics.

They are not lunatics. They are desperate. They are suffering from trauma exposure and depression and anxiety - and yes, that can be laid squarely at the feet of the Israeli government and military.

There are plenty of Israeli civilians that can see the truth and condemn the actions of their government - perhaps you should take note before you jump to the defence of criminals and murderers.

So what would pacify the Palestinians?
1. Palestinian statehood in the West Bank and Gaza? (plus Jordan - evidently not enough)

2. Or nothing short of the eradication of Israel?

I am tipping 2. What's your guess?

NOT bulldozing and NOT locking up ppl indefinitely without charge and NOT calling airstrikes on large apartment buildings and actually talking about peace instead of making threats.

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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #76 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:32am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

Annie, in your Christianity when someone slaps you in the cheek you offer him the other cheek.

In Israel when someone slap us we slap them back harder.

Hmmm so NOW you admit to being religious. OT huh. Yeah real peaceful book that. And you reckon muslims are bad.

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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #77 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 8:42am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

Annie, in your Christianity when someone slaps you in the cheek you offer him the other cheek.

In Israel when someone slap us we slap them back harder.

Hmmm so NOW you admit to being religious. OT huh. Yeah real peaceful book that. And you reckon muslims are bad.

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How exactly is this him admitting to being religious?

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Reply #78 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:22am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

Annie, in your Christianity when someone slaps you in the cheek you offer him the other cheek.

In Israel when someone slap us we slap them back harder.

Hmmm so NOW you admit to being religious. OT huh. Yeah real peaceful book that. And you reckon muslims are bad.

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I am a secular Jew - (not religious) which I have always said.

If I was religious, I wouldn't be posting on here this evening or using any electronic equipment.
I (occasionally) will go to shul occasionally - usually under pressure from my mother.

But no, I am not strong religious but follow some of the teachings.

I was making the point about Christianity though - which is not my religion;

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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #79 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:34am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:22am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

Annie, in your Christianity when someone slaps you in the cheek you offer him the other cheek.

In Israel when someone slap us we slap them back harder.

Hmmm so NOW you admit to being religious. OT huh. Yeah real peaceful book that. And you reckon muslims are bad.

SOB

I am a secular Jew - (not religious) which I have always said.

If I was religious, I wouldn't be posting on here this evening or using any electronic equipment.
I (occasionally) will go to shul occasionally - usually under pressure from my mother.

But no, I am not strong religious but follow some of the teachings.

I was making the point about Christianity though - which is not my religion;

then why use religion as an excuse?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49030 At my desk.	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #80 - Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:17pm Quote: There are plenty of Israeli civilians that can see the truth and condemn the actions of their government - perhaps you should take note before you jump to the defence of criminals and murderers. You are the one making up simplistic excuses here Annie, not me.
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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #81 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:25am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 9:22am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 10:49pm:

Annie, in your Christianity when someone slaps you in the cheek you offer him the other cheek.

In Israel when someone slap us we slap them back harder.

Hmmm so NOW you admit to being religious. OT huh. Yeah real peaceful book that. And you reckon muslims are bad.

SOB

I am a secular Jew - (not religious) which I have always said.

If I was religious, I wouldn't be posting on here this evening or using any electronic equipment.
I (occasionally) will go to shul occasionally - usually under pressure from my mother.

But no, I am not strong religious but follow some of the teachings.

I was making the point about Christianity though - which is not my religion;

Only when your book says someone elses home belongs to you right?

Then you all of a sudden become the miraculous believer.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #82 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm Abu - What is your view on Hamas? Me I think we should drive them into the sea.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #83 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:31pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm: Abu - What is your view on Hamas? Me I think we should drive them into the sea. How dare they not drop their bombs from planes.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #84 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 1:26pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm: Abu - What is your view on Hamas? Me I think we should drive them into the sea. Hamas are just a group of people trying to evict the squatters who've overrun their country. Good luck driving them into sea now their older brother has assumed power in Egypt.
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Re: Israel's cruelty to children
Reply #85 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 4:33pm

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Abu - What is your view on Hamas?

Me I think we should drive them into the sea.

Hamas are just a group of people trying to evict the squatters who've overrun their country.

Good luck driving them into sea now their older brother has assumed power in Egypt.

Oh yes I am scared.
Maybe this time they will last longer than SIX DAYS?

Arabs. Cowards.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #86 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:01pm In my uncle's house there is a photo of he and my father holding a Israeli flag with 2 others in the Sinai in the 6 Day War. Egypt? Ha ha ha
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #87 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:04pm That was Egypt under an Arab national socialist. Egypt under an Islamist government is going to be a whole 'nother kettle of fish. Keep looking at your picture... you חזיר
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #88 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:11pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:01pm: In my uncle's house there is a photo of he and my father holding a Israeli flag with 2 others in the Sinai in the 6 Day War. Egypt? Ha ha ha Bloody jew racist SOB
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel's cruelty to children Reply #89 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:12pm abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1^st, 2012 at 5:04pm: That was Egypt under an Arab national socialist. Egypt under an Islamist government is going to be a whole 'nother kettle of fish. Keep looking at your picture... you חזיר Keep dreaming. We have a military that Arabs can only dream of.
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