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Reply #195 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 5:34pm

Some.
I like to think on internal politics we have many views like I have never voted Likud or Kadima but on nation security we think the same.
I don't agree with some of the behavior of the settlers as I have said before.

So yes we can disagree but we love Israel.

Anyway you understand the point I make about attacking from the air the camps?

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Reply #196 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 6:46pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 2:24pm:

I think a policy of containment is better for Afghanistan.

Keep the training camps under control by satellite surveillance and then targeted strike from the air bombing the camps?

That is much better and more likely to be successful.

Then use intelligence agencies on the ground - CIA, MOSSAD etc

You ever heard that 'you can't expect the problem to provide the solution' AH? The CIA is the problem and has been for the last thirty years. They don't do ground work, they scan the papers for key words, feed them into a computer and give money to nutters. The closest they come to ground work is propping up a bar in Islamabad.

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Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

http://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahi...

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Afghanistan Reply #197 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 6:51pm The CIA sometimes is not as effective as they can be but you know each of the 9/11 hijackers was tracked by Mossad? I have faith in the system if we use it correctly. We use intelligence, satellites, drones cruise missiles and also targeted removals if necessary. I like this strategy.
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Reply #198 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 7:13pm

Yeah

WELL ...see what happens when a person goes away for a few days. ...

Another pile of ..stuff...btwn... disrespectful 'opinionado's'..!! Roll Eyes

Give it a rest morons.

Israel is not the topic so go away...somewhere else.!

Good grief ...you're the pits .. aren't you..??

If you want to talk about various other conflicts, all over the world, why don't one of you start a topic .... or even a whole Thread... Huh

about WAR, be it big or small. Angry

This is/was ..about our soldiers in Afghanistan.

So Av... you repeat my comments from the earliest posts about the dangers of warfare in Afghanistan. Yeah..well that 's been said already. You are all just rehashing irrelevant opinions... again, and again and again and again and again......

Your posts should address the topic... neh?

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #199 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 7:39pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

The CIA sometimes is not as effective as they can be but you know each of the 9/11 hijackers was tracked by Mossad?
I have faith in the system if we use it correctly.

We use intelligence, satellites, drones cruise missiles and also targeted removals if necessary.
I like this strategy.

Afghanistan needs sterner stuff than Mossad and drones. It needs to be made to beg for forgiveness and mercy. It needs that cathartic, cleansing, crushing defeat. Before the eyes of all the other Caliphate-mongering monkeys, of course. That's the only way it and broader tribal Islam can ever hope to enter the modern world. Afghanistan IS the village that needs to be utterly destroyed in order to save it.
Otherwise they will drag us all down to their level.

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #200 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 8:18pm

Results of POLL

The two major votes were equal.....

[

b]Equal for remaining to the end of the current Exit plan......

AND equal for remaining until it's appropriate to leave.

[/b]

So
- two/thirds of the pollsters thought we
            should stay till we said we would, or

equally
we
            should stay until an indeterminate future date, when it's right to leave. (ie indefinitely)

The remaining, roughly one/third of voters were split, but not by much ...give or take a vote

btwn

we
         should leave within 6 mths, or

we
         should leave immediately.

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #201 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 8:48pm

Soren wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

The CIA sometimes is not as effective as they can be but you know each of the 9/11 hijackers was tracked by Mossad?
I have faith in the system if we use it correctly.

We use intelligence, satellites, drones cruise missiles and also targeted removals if necessary.
I like this strategy.

Afghanistan needs sterner stuff than Mossad and drones. It needs to be made to beg for forgiveness and mercy. It needs that cathartic, cleansing, crushing defeat. Before the eyes of all the other Caliphate-mongering monkeys, of course. That's the only way it and broader tribal Islam can ever hope to enter the modern world. Afghanistan IS the village that needs to be utterly destroyed in order to save it.
Otherwise they will drag us all down to their level.

Afghanistan is not solvable but we must do is protect our own country from terror so we have to stop the training camps.

That is why I favor firing cruise missiles into the country and Pakistan if there to remind the problem.
Also drones are possible.

Then we have no casualty.

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