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Reply #30 - Sep 2nd, 2012 at 8:50pm
 
[quote author=674C4257564A5049250 link=1346416177/21#21 date=1346565248]What kind of idiot would go and fight in another country just because he was told to?
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Do you think soldiers vote on the issue? You need to read over an enlistment form VEWWY VEWWY carefully. It mentions the fact that when you sign up you agree to take orders and serve your country. That includes being sent to foreign lands.
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Reply #31 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 6:08am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:
Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?


Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

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a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.


How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

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Reply #32 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 6:34am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 6:08am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:
Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?


Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB


a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.


How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

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Some join as a last resort spot.

Some of the youth in my area couldn't get work after leaving school so they joined the defence force as a means to an end sort of. They are young, naive and desperate to start earning money and to lose the stigma attached to the unemployed.

When they joined, Afghanistan didn't even enter their heads, they didn't really think they would be sent to fight a war on terror.

I feel very sorry for those kids, they were kids in my book. They had no hate for Arabs or anyone else for that matter. One day they are surfing, next day they are learning to kill. All that for a job, any old job, but they had to resort to that.

They either come back with their brain screwed or in a box, just for a job.
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Reply #33 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 10:50am
 
You must yourselves realize the power of your country, and feed your eyes upon her from day to day, till love of her fills your hearts; and then, when all her greatness shall break upon you, you must reflect that it was by courage, sense of duty, and a keen feeling of honour in action that men were enabled to win all this, and that no personal failure in an enterprise could make them consent to deprive their country of their valour, but they laid it at her feet as the most glorious contribution that they could offer.

For this offering of their lives made in common by them all they each of them individually received that renown which never grows old, and for a sepulchre, not so much that in which their bones have been deposited, but that noblest of shrines wherein their glory is laid up to be eternally remembered upon every occasion on which deed or story shall call for its commemoration. For heroes have the whole earth for their tomb; and in lands far from their own, where the column with its epitaph declares it, there is enshrined in every breast a record unwritten with no tablet to preserve it, except that of the heart.

These take as your model and, judging happiness to be the fruit of freedom and freedom of valour, never decline the dangers of war. For it is not the miserable that would most justly be unsparing of their lives; these have nothing to hope for: it is rather they to whom continued life may bring reverses as yet unknown, and to whom a fall, if it came, would be most tremendous in its consequences. And surely, to a man of spirit, the degradation of cowardice must be immeasurably more grievous than the unfelt death which strikes him in the midst of his strength and patriotism!
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Reply #34 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:21am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 6:08am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:
Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?


Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB


a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.


How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB



Why do people climb everest, or journey to the north pole?  Theres little to be gained, and everything to lose, so it doesn't make logical sense - unless you realise that the thirst for adventure is what drives men to greatness.
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Reply #35 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:25am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 10:50am:
You must yourselves realize the power of your country, and feed your eyes upon her from day to day, till love of her fills your hearts; and then, when all her greatness shall break upon you, you must reflect that it was by courage, sense of duty, and a keen feeling of honour in action that men were enabled to win all this, and that no personal failure in an enterprise could make them consent to deprive their country of their valour, but they laid it at her feet as the most glorious contribution that they could offer.

For this offering of their lives made in common by them all they each of them individually received that renown which never grows old, and for a sepulchre, not so much that in which their bones have been deposited, but that noblest of shrines wherein their glory is laid up to be eternally remembered upon every occasion on which deed or story shall call for its commemoration. For heroes have the whole earth for their tomb; and in lands far from their own, where the column with its epitaph declares it, there is enshrined in every breast a record unwritten with no tablet to preserve it, except that of the heart.

These take as your model and, judging happiness to be the fruit of freedom and freedom of valour, never decline the dangers of war. For it is not the miserable that would most justly be unsparing of their lives; these have nothing to hope for: it is rather they to whom continued life may bring reverses as yet unknown, and to whom a fall, if it came, would be most tremendous in its consequences. And surely, to a man of spirit, the degradation of cowardice must be immeasurably more grievous than the unfelt death which strikes him in the midst of his strength and patriotism!


Marvellous stuff, old chap. Suharto? Mahatir? Lee Quan Yew?
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Reply #36 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:31am
 
If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.
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Reply #37 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:44am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:31am:
If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.


There are Israelis fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq?
I thought they just stayed at home and let everyone else do the fighting for them while shooting rock throwing children.
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Reply #38 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:47am
 
Afghanistan and Iraq is not related to us.

However be assured we will be happy to attack Iran from the air.
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Reply #39 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:49am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:47am:
Afghanistan and Iraq is not related to us.

However be assured we will be happy to attack Iran from the air.

Yes they are, they are Semitic and statistically have just as many of 'gods chosen people' in their population as Israel does.
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Reply #40 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:51am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:47am:
Afghanistan and Iraq is not related to us.

However be assured we will be happy to attack Iran from the air.


You should be back there supporting your country when that happens
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Reply #41 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:56am
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:51am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:47am:
Afghanistan and Iraq is not related to us.

However be assured we will be happy to attack Iran from the air.


You should be back there supporting your country when that happens



I am a Reservist now until I am 45 years old.
I will go for 2 weeks of training on my return - please be assured I will be on call for IDF if it is ever required and again the Arab aggressors want another humiliation.

One day on my return next year I promise to post up the photo of my uncles in the Sinai in the 6 day war with a big Israeli flag deep into Egypt!!
We are brave and courageous people.
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Reply #42 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:57am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:56am:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:51am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 11:47am:
Afghanistan and Iraq is not related to us.

However be assured we will be happy to attack Iran from the air.


You should be back there supporting your country when that happens



I am a Reservist now until I am 45 years old.
I will go for 2 weeks of training on my return - please be assured I will be on call for IDF if it is ever required and again the Arab aggressors want another humiliation.

One day on my return next year I promise to post up the photo of my uncles in the Sinai in the 6 day war with a big Israeli flag deep into Egypt!!
We are brave and courageous people.

Just don't cry to us again when you get yourselves holocausted.
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Reply #43 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
to you?

HA

You are a coward. Someone who would be frightened to death if he spend 1 single day in what we do.

Just a internet warrior as they say in the USA.
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Reply #44 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 12:02pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3rd, 2012 at 6:08am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:
Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?


Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB


a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.


How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB



You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.
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