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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #45 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:03pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:00pm:

to you?

HA

You are a coward. Someone who would be frightened to death if he spend 1 single day in what we do.

Just a internet warrior as they say in the USA.

You would be frightened to death if the veil of ignorance dropped from around your head and you saw the reality of it all.

Just a terrorist as they say in the dictionary.

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #46 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:05pm

... wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

Why do people climb everest, or journey to the north pole? Theres little to be gained, and everything to lose, so it doesn't make logical sense - unless you realise that the thirst for adventure is what drives men to greatness.

That doesnt make them heroes or brave

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #47 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:06pm

More Afghani civilians killed by the coalition of the killing. Don't complain when the Afghani soldiers retaliate.

It's too easy to kill unarmed villagers and call them insurgents.

Karzai's pissed off, now the yanks have to throw more money at him.

If we're not training any more, we may as well bring our soldiers home.
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'Civilian' Afghan men killed in manhunt

Sergeant Hek Matullah escaped from the patrol base straight after the killings and he's suspected to have been aided by the Taliban.

After an extensive search Australian troops aided by Afghan forces have detained a suspected insurgent they say helped with the escape.

But the raid has come at a cost. Two Afghan men were killed by Australian troops.

The ADF says all the proper rules of engagement were followed but Afghanistan's president Hamid Karzai is furious.

Local reports say those killed were a 70 year old Imam and his son. It's also been reported that the Australian troops detained a number of locals, including a woman, during the operation.

President Karzai says the Australian forces acted unilaterally and he wants a full inquiry into the situation.

The latest incidents have highlighted the problems "green on blue" killings are causing for western forces in Afghanistan. At least 45 Western soldiers have died at the hands of Afghan allies this year.

Now ISAF has suspended the training of new recruits to the Afghan local police.

more:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3581333.htm

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #48 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:06pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:31am:

If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.

yup.that is why it is stupid to join the army in peacetime and go fight someone elses war.

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #49 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:08pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.

it more stupid than brave and you arent serving this country. it has nothing to do with honour.

you can strive for betterment without going off and killing ppl.

SOB

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #50 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:11pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:05pm:

... wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

Why do people climb everest, or journey to the north pole? Theres little to be gained, and everything to lose, so it doesn't make logical sense - unless you realise that the thirst for adventure is what drives men to greatness.

That doesnt make them heroes or brave

SOB

It doesn't? Then what does?

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #51 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:21pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.

it more stupid than brave and you arent serving this country. it has nothing to do with honour.

you can strive for betterment without going off and killing ppl.

SOB

See, the thing is, you're unable to look outside your own perspective of the world. You filter everything through your own lens. Here's a hint: The more perspectives you understand, the more you will understand the world and the people in it.

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #52 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:21pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.

it more stupid than brave and you arent serving this country. it has nothing to do with honour.

you can strive for betterment without going off and killing ppl.

SOB

See, the thing is, you're unable to look outside your own perspective of the world. You filter everything through your own lens. Here's a hint: The more perspectives you understand, the more you will understand the world and the people in it.

How much perspective do people like you get from up your own asses?

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #53 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:31am:

If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.

yup.that is why it is stupid to join the army in peacetime and go fight someone elses war.

SOB

Armies do not need cowards like you anyway

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #54 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:27pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:31am:

If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.

yup.that is why it is stupid to join the army in peacetime and go fight someone elses war.

SOB

Armies do not need cowards like you anyway

The Israeli army is in Afghanistan and Iraq?
I dont think so..

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #55 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:34pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:21pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.

it more stupid than brave and you arent serving this country. it has nothing to do with honour.

you can strive for betterment without going off and killing ppl.

SOB

See, the thing is, you're unable to look outside your own perspective of the world. You filter everything through your own lens. Here's a hint: The more perspectives you understand, the more you will understand the world and the people in it.

How much perspective do people like you get from up your own asses?

Yo, fully sic bro!
You so sic bro!

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #56 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:35pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 11:31am:

If anyone here has served in the army you would know that every decision you take is with the least risk involved.

There is enough risk in everything you do without you add more to it!

You want to add risk - you are likely to be killed.

yup.that is why it is stupid to join the army in peacetime and go fight someone elses war.

SOB

Armies do not need cowards like you anyway

What sort of cowards do they need?

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Re: Afghanistan
Reply #57 - Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:36pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:34pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:23pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:21pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 6:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Even if they chose to go, I still don't see how that's weak minded or moronic.
Moreover, how can it be weak minded if you make a conscious decision to participate in the defence force?

Well:

a) doesnt pay well
b) risks are great

SOB

a. It's not all about money.
b. The courageous like risks.

How does it make ppl courageous to put themselves in harms way for little pay for no reason? Seriously we arent @ war or anything - we dont need defending. the only reason someone would join up nowadays to go overseas and fight in someone elses war is because they want to kill ppl. Not because they are "brave".

SOB

You don't understand things like self-determination, courage, honour, risk-taking, striving for betterment, self-cultivation, serving the country, making a difference etc.

it more stupid than brave and you arent serving this country. it has nothing to do with honour.

you can strive for betterment without going off and killing ppl.

SOB

See, the thing is, you're unable to look outside your own perspective of the world. You filter everything through your own lens. Here's a hint: The more perspectives you understand, the more you will understand the world and the people in it.

How much perspective do people like you get from up your own asses?

Yo, fully sic bro!
You so sic bro!

Blame the communists.

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