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Emma
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Aug 31st, 2012 at 10:29pm
 
This might be a difficult question...  and I guess I'm surprised that there is no-one before me..

(or not)

How do people feel about our soldiers in Afghanistan?
Should they be there?

Perhaps its worthy of a Poll.

I have my views,  and  there seems to be no coverage at all at the moment...  mind you a thread could be out there.. my somewhat narrow search found nothing. Shocked Huh

I should say... I guess... that they need to stay...!!


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Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 10:40pm
 
My first Poll.. so forgiveness pls.  Smiley
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Reply #2 - Aug 31st, 2012 at 10:48pm
 
We're not colonists, sista. We have a small, symbolic defence force.

Our expertise is better spent in aid. Of course the Karzai government would sqander it - which makes you wonder why we're propping up a dead horse in the first place - with real blood.

We'd do better befriending moderate forces in the Taliban - which is exactly what we should have done in our last pointless exercise, Vietnam. If we'd bothered with the Khmer Rouge, we could have saved millions.
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Reply #3 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:37am
 
I don't agree karnal.

"Moderate"  Taliban  ???
Like the latest cowardly killer ,??  ...of three of our soldiers?

Say ? do you know some moderate taliban members then ..??.. huh?

DO TELL.!!! Please.

Jeez you talk Krap Karnal.   
That's your new name  ...krap karnal.

You drag in Khmer?  what ?  so your point??
....  is irrelevant.! But thanks for the vote.!


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Reply #4 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 4:21am
 
It doesnt matter anymore imo. We have provoked the afghanis now . .. . .

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Reply #5 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 6:27am
 
I say leave as soon as possible, like yesterday.

There is no point us being there. They didn't want us there in the first place and they don't want us there now.  They don't see us as friends.

Like someone else said, we can stay for another two years or another 100 years, the gangsters will be back in force within weeks of our withdrawal.

The government are with the Taliban and war lords because they know that when the coalition of the killing pull out, their necks are on the line.

These countries are not ready to be westernised yet, and they probably never will be.

The west should mind its own business and take care of its own before invading other nations for whatever reason.

Has any good come from any of the American invasions in the Middle East?
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Reply #6 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 7:38am
 
Bring our soldiers home NOW.  Not next year, or in 2014, bring them home NOW.     Sad
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Reply #7 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 10:06am
 
I can' t Beleive most respondants to this Poll, want there to continue to be Australian deaths in Afghanistan.
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Reply #8 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:03pm
 
Can we have another option, please?
Kill 'em all, then leave.

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Reply #9 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:08pm
 
warrigal wrote on Sep 1st, 2012 at 10:06am:
I can' t Beleive most respondants to this Poll, want there to continue to be Australian deaths in Afghanistan.


My computer must be broken....I didn't see anything in the poll choices about 'continue to be deaths'....
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Reply #10 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:13pm
 
Send the Afghans and Iraqis and Iranians and Pakis back to Afghanistan et al and bring the Australians back to Australia.

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Reply #11 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:18pm
 
Emma wrote on Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:37am:
I don't agree karnal.

"Moderate"  Taliban  ???
Like the latest cowardly killer ,??  ...of three of our soldiers?

Say ? do you know some moderate taliban members then ..??.. huh?

DO TELL.!!! Please.

Jeez you talk Krap Karnal.   
That's your new name  ...krap karnal.

You drag in Khmer?  what ?  so your point??
....  is irrelevant.! But thanks for the vote.!




Sista, the soldiers you mention were killed by our allies in the Afghan forces, not the Taliban. This is how amorphous the situation is in Afghanistan.

Leaders and warlords change sides like the wind. The Taliban is not a centralised organisation. Power in Afghanistan is regional - well, tribal. There are a huge number of ethnic groups for a country of twenty odd million people.

Like the rest of the country, the Taliban is factionalised and splintered. For a tribal country, Afghans are radically individualistic people. A small number of Taliban leaders are part of a Western educated political elite that has been cultivated by Europe and Amerika in the interest of Afghanistan's resources.

George W Bush, for example, formed a relationship with the Taliban trade minister when he was still Texan governor. Karzai lived and worked in Amerika during the  years of Taliban rule. China is now building a national highway linking Kabul with the south.

The world wants what Afghanistan has - what Bush was referring to when he talked about Amerika's addiction to fossil fuels. There are moderate leaders in the Taliban who are now meeting with the US State Department to discuss the transition in 2014.

Whether they or the extremists prevail will determine the fate of Afghanistan. The Karzai government and the current parliament are in their last days.
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Reply #12 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:27pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 1st, 2012 at 1:03pm:
Can we have another option, please?
Kill 'em all, then leave.




That's what the coalition of the killing have been trying to do for ten years.

They'll be there forever.

They suck at it, the best they can do is raid a few peasant dwellings in the dead of night and kill little kiddies and their mummy's.
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Reply #13 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 2:24pm
 
It is pretty ironic that the yank guy went out and killed a bunch of ppl a few weeks ago and now an afghani has gone off the rails. Must be a bit of a headbugger over there.

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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2012 at 4:57pm
 
I can't believe that we are wasting good aussie blood on that crap hole. I feel sorry for the good afghani people that will suffer when the taliban get back in though. Get them home.
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