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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #15 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:43pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

Hmm - neither a homophobe nor an homo... Undecided

lover here - but it seems his logic is flawed. If gays have a higher disease rate through promiscuity - does not marriage solve part of that problem?

Besides - give the gay community enough time and enough tries at marriage and they will demand that the government take that 'right' back..... Grin

No I don't think so. Promiscuity is rife in gay partnerships as being in an 'open relationship' is much higher in the gay community. It's all hip tolerant, and cool to root around.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage Reply #16 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 8:48pm cods wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:42pm: ... wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 5:47pm: and don't even get me started on gay smokers. hilarious! ..and they only smoke when not using enough lube. ..sorry for the mental picture there
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40780 Gender:	Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage Reply #17 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 9:37pm well, whats the average smokers expected life time ?
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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:21am

Shane B wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:24pm:

Hmm - neither a homophobe nor an homo... Undecided

lover here - but it seems his logic is flawed. If gays have a higher disease rate through promiscuity - does not marriage solve part of that problem?

Besides - give the gay community enough time and enough tries at marriage and they will demand that the government take that 'right' back..... Grin

No I don't think so. Promiscuity is rife in gay partnerships as being in an 'open relationship' is much higher in the gay community. It's all hip tolerant, and cool to root around.

Seriously the only reason SINGLE gays men are more promiscuous is because they are male. The gay women arent so much. Singles of all persuasions are promiscuous these days but as you can see form elvis and amadd rants there is still a stereotype for women. Promiscuous woman are perceived as "sluts" but men are not. Straight men would be just as promiscuous if there werent such perceptions of promiscuous women. I think you will find times are a changing though and theres a lot of it in all persuasions of single ppl in australia.

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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #19 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:41am

adelcrow wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 6:44pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

All those priests that fiddled with little boys seem to have lived to ripe old ages so pedophilia must be good for your health according to the church

you are obsessive with paedos are you not??? every chance you get... make me wonder about you..

I have read where those that condemn others are usually the worst offenders.

Ask Abbott he wanted to be a priest Cheesy

no I am asking you?????you are the obsessive one.. does your wife know????????

your hang up with paedos on here is very obvious.... I have never heard Abbott talk about them.. and no matter what the subject you make a point of bringing it up..

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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #21 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:55am

Does he have, or not have a point about higher rates of drug taking and sucuide within the gay community.

One could go so far as to suggest its people like old mate that are in part to blame.

Some gay people who are unable to deal with the abuse of others including their families turn to a dark side.

Tolerance and acceptance is a cornerstone to success in society.

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Reply #22 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:57am

You can accept or tolerate gay people in society without bring the gay marriage into it.

Many people - me included - are ok with gay people but do not want allowance for them to marry.

I think it is not a society accepted thing and it will also upset and cause problems for religious people.

Gay people have to also accept and be tolerant of others' beliefs - i dont think that they are.

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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #23 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

You can accept or tolerate gay people in society without bring the gay marriage into it.

Many people - me included - are ok with gay people but do not want allowance for them to marry.

I think it is not a society accepted thing and it will also upset and cause problems for religious people.

Gay people have to also accept and be tolerant of others' beliefs - i dont think that they are.

According to the lastest poll over 60% of people were in support of it.

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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #24 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

Verge wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

You can accept or tolerate gay people in society without bring the gay marriage into it.

Many people - me included - are ok with gay people but do not want allowance for them to marry.

I think it is not a society accepted thing and it will also upset and cause problems for religious people.

Gay people have to also accept and be tolerant of others' beliefs - i dont think that they are.

According to the lastest poll over 60% of people were in support of it.

A poll does not ask everyone and 60/40 is a long way from being a accepted norm.

It is a problem issue which is not clear cut - there must be a third way found.

This should be for gays to be allowed to have the relationship but not a marriage.

People must meet in the middle.

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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #25 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

Verge wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:55am:

Does he have, or not have a point about higher rates of drug taking and sucuide within the gay community.

One could go so far as to suggest its people like old mate that are in part to blame.

Some gay people who are unable to deal with the abuse of others including their families turn to a dark side.

Tolerance and acceptance is a cornerstone to success in society.

Most people keep their opinions to themselves, unless prompted. Even then, they tend to hum and haah and try to avoid giving an answer that the interlocutor doesn't want to hear, without lying to themselves.

The key to tolerance and acceptance is knowing when to STFU.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage Reply #26 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:12pm Wonder how many little boys he got access to by doing this for the church?
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Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage
Reply #27 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:24pm

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The greater incidence of physical and mental health problems among gays and lesbians has serious consequences for length of life. While many are aware of the death toll from AIDS, there has been little public attention given to the magnitude of the lost years of life.

An epidemiological study from Vancouver, Canada of data tabulated between 1987 and 1992 for AIDS-related deaths reveals that male homosexual or bisexual practitioners lost up to 20 years of life expectancy. The study concluded that if 3 percent of the population studied were gay or bisexual, the probability of a 20-year-old gay or bisexual man living to 65 years was only 32 percent, compared to 78 percent for men in general.1 The damaging effects of cigarette smoking pale in comparison -cigarette smokers lose on average about 13.5 years of life expectancy.2

The impact on length of life may be even greater than reported in the Canadian study. First, HIV/AIDS is underreported by as much as 15-20 percent, so it is likely that not all AIDS-related deaths were accounted for in the study.3 Second, there are additional major causes of death related to gay sex. For example, suicide rates among a San Francisco cohort were 3.4 times higher than the general U.S. male population in 1987.4 Other potentially fatal ailments such as syphilis, anal cancer, and Hepatitis B and C also affect gay and bisexual men disproportionately.5..........

http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/life-span/

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.....A lifetime of cigarette smoking can reduce your life expectancy by 10 years...........

http://www.chemmart.com.au/smoking-and-your-life-expectancy/w2/i1010919/

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage Reply #28 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:16pm ... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:06am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:21am: Singles of all persuasions are promiscuous these days but as you can see form elvis and amadd rants there is still a stereotype for women. Please don't pretend you understand a word of what I say. Hahahahaha! SOB
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Smoking is healthier than gay marriage Reply #29 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:17pm see? Right there - nothing even remotely funny about it, yet you laugh like a maniac!
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