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Reply #30 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:06pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 11:57am:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/assets_c/2010/04/mapstatestaxes-thum...



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/assets_c/2010/04/Final2008USPresiden...





"There is a very strong correlation, then, between a state voting for Republicans and receiving more in federal spending than its residents pay to the federal government in taxes (the rust belt and Texas being notable exceptions). In essence, those in blue states are subsidizing those in red states. Both red and blue states appear to be acting politically in opposition to their economic interests. Blue states are voting for candidates who are likely to continue the policies of red state subsidization while red states are voting for candidates who profess a desire to reduce federal spending (and presumably red state subsidization)."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html



I can explain that.

Areas with high numbers of "minorities" are heavily subsidized. Yet "minorities" don't vote in anywhere near the numbers honkies do.  It's not compulosry like it is in Australia.

Honkies in these states see the exorbitant amount of funding going to minorities in their vicinity, while they get nothing...or worse than nothing. 

So, the fed-up honkies vote for the party that...well...doesn't oppose these gibsmedats, but at least doesn't make it their central platform. 

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Reply #31 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:05pm:



Like I said - completely ignores the fact that in those states in the inner cities - where the majority of the welfare goes - they are Democrat voting suburbs made up of minorities.

Walk around places like Atlanta, Montgomery, Birmingham and tell me what it looks like....
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Reply #32 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:20pm
 
Alabama - Obama v McCain 2008.

1) Take a wild guess where the majority of welfare is paid and unemployment is highest.

2) Take a wild guess which symbolizes the Obama blue....

See what I mean Darkhall?
The very people who are the laziest and the most criminal and receive the most welfare also buck the trend in the rest of the good state of Alabama.
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Reply #33 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:22pm
 
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A fair correlation, but doesn't take latinos ainto account.
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Reply #34 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:34pm
 
The truth? Of the 46 million people living in poverty in America in 2010, the U.S. census revealed that 31 million were white. Ten million were black. Of the 49 million people without health insurance coverage, 37 million were white; 8 million were African American. Latinos of every race and Asian Americans represented the remaining largest ethnic groups.

The face of poverty in America is overwhelmingly white, but as sociologist and professor William O'Hare explains in a 2009 study on children in poverty, the white American poor, especially those in rural areas, are "forgotten."

So What Do the Numbers Tell Us About Poverty?

White Americans, poor and middle-class alike, receive the vast majority of tax-funded government assistance programs, from monthly assistance to Social Security to food stamps.

TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families), the program that provides aid to single mothers, is the most well-known welfare program, but the truth is that Social Security and Medicare are also social welfare services, funded by tax dollars. To that end, nearly 70 percent of all benefits of these programs go to white people. In fact, since African Americans have lower life expectancy, many work and pay into the Social Security and Medicare programs through their tax dollars, only to have white Americans, who have a longer life expectancy, benefit from the income they've left behind.


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Reply #35 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:47pm
 
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To that end, nearly 70 percent of all benefits of these programs go to white people.


Gosh.  Those dastardly honkies taking more than their share.

Oh.

Wait.

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White or European American 223,553,265 72.4 %


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicit...

Also interesting to note that people in prison don't get welfare, meaning the stats are further skewed against honkies. 

According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009.[32] Hispanics (of all races) were 15.9% of those incarcerated in 2009.[32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
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Reply #36 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 12:58pm
 
Non-Hispanic White
196,817,552[

Of the 46 million people living in poverty in America in 2010, the U.S. census revealed that 31 million were white. Ten million were black.

42,020,743[1] (13.6% of the US population)

if your numbers are correct then that would mean that the other 5 million americans living in poverty are hispanic/asian/native american, which at the time of the 2010 census comprised 22% of the population or so. discounting other groups, hispanic americans are 16% of the population and have significantly lower than average incomes than white americans (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Race_Income.png/300px-Race_Income.png). it's highly impluasible that 'hispanic americans' have not been lumped in with 'white americans' (as they frequently are) in your measure there.

The US Census declared that in 2010 15.1% of the general population lived in poverty:[30]
9.9% of all non-Hispanic white persons
12.1% of all Asian persons
26.6% of all Hispanic persons (of any race) (though hispanics may identify as white as well as hispanic, the vast majority are mestizo/amerind)
27.4% of all black persons.

according to this, if 26.6% of hispanics are in poverty, then 13 million (from 50 million) or so are in poverty. and yet your numbers say that they should comprise less or only 5 million of america's poor, if no asians/pacific islanders/native americans in america are poor at all.

lame.
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Reply #37 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 2:00pm
 
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To that end, nearly 70 percent of all benefits of these programs go to white people.


Gosh.  Those dastardly honkies taking more than their share.

Oh.

Wait.

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White or European American 223,553,265 72.4 %


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicit...

Also interesting to note that people in prison don't get welfare, meaning the stats are further skewed against honkies.  [/url]


True, but the states are doing everything they can to detain more honkies and correct the imbalance.
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Reply #38 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 3:00pm
 
The more I hear from Mitt Romney, the more I see an Obama win.
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Reply #39 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 3:03pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 3:00pm:
The more I hear from Mitt Romney, the more I see an Obama win.



You going to celebrate fervently like last time?

Then the big fella fired more cruise missiles into Afghanistan than any previous President.
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Reply #40 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 4:38pm
 
The Mitts hit the fan  Cheesy
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Reply #41 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 4:58pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 3:03pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 3:00pm:
The more I hear from Mitt Romney, the more I see an Obama win.



You going to celebrate fervently like last time?

Then the big fella fired more cruise missiles into Afghanistan than any previous President.
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I can't even remember the last time that I celebrated anything to do with the USA.

I'm keeping the fervent celebrations for their fall.

Romney and Obama are both notorious war mongers, so enjoy your taxes being spent on the war effort and the revenge attacks.
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Reply #42 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 5:02pm
 
The Israelis want the USA to invade Iran..good luck with that one  Cheesy
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Reply #43 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 6:01pm
 
Osama fish food. The jews would of been laughing when that piece of crap went overboard. The savour of the muslim radicals got wacked and disposed of. What a laugh!!!
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Reply #44 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 6:10pm
 
How many young Americans have to die before the Jewish nation is satisfied?
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