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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #210 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm Muslims have the entire Arab world to live but yet they want to drive us from our homeland?
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Reply #211 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:16pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Muslims have the entire Arab world to live but yet they want to drive us from our homeland?

It is not about the land, for the moslems.

For moslems, it is about their unhealthy desire to master [to be the masters of,] everyone around them.

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If it was about land, there is plenty of moslem lands, deserts, around Israel,
WHERE NATION BUILDING NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN.

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"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #212 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

squatter.

Abu,

You claim that you are a servant/slave of the God of creation.

The piece of land that is known as 'the land of Israel', belongs to the God of creation [not to men].

Correct ?

Abu,

Don't you believe that the God of creation will give the land to whom he [the God of creation] pleases ?

The prize that God is offering to man, is possession of the land.

And God, is going to give 'the land' to whom he will.

Abu,

Can't you agree, with that argument ?

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Matthew 6:10
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #213 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 8:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

Muslims have the entire Arab world to live

Yes, including Palestine.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 6:49pm:

but yet they want to drive us from our homeland?

It's not your homeland, and hasn't been for thousands of years. It's no more yours than Germany is mine, just because my ancestors supposedly lived there 2000 years ago.

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Reply #214 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 8:11pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Abu, You claim that you are a servant/slave of the God of creation. The piece of land that is known as 'the land of Israel', belongs to the God of creation [not to men]. Correct ?

All of the earth, nay the entire creation, belongs to the creator. Why do you think only one small patch of land belongs to him?

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Abu, Don't you believe that the God of creation will give the land to whom he [the God of creation] pleases ? The prize that God is offering to man, is possession of the land. And God, is going to give 'the land' to whom he will.

This nonsense arises from a fundamental misunderstanding of divine destiny. The prevailing situation, or the status quo, is claimed (by the one who lacks real faith) to be the "work of God" that must be surrendered to, when it happens to suit his desires. When it doesn't of course it's an evil abomination that must be reversed, but that's a whole 'nother kettla fish.

Same kind of idiot mind that ran around proclaiming the Boxing Day Tsunami as the "work of God" against the infidels (as it killed mostly Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists etc.), yet was nowhere to be found when Katrina ripped the heart of Christian America to shreds.

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Abu, Can't you agree, with that argument ?

What I can agree with is that you are a simpleton, who will twist things to suit your own desires.

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Reply #215 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 8:11pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Abu, You claim that you are a servant/slave of the God of creation. The piece of land that is known as 'the land of Israel', belongs to the God of creation [not to men]. Correct ?

Yadda wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

Abu, Can't you agree, with that argument ?

What I can agree with is that you are a simpleton, who will twist things

.......to suit your own desires.

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Proverbs 12:12
The wicked desireth the net of evil men: but the root of the righteous yieldeth fruit.

The 'net', is speaking of using a net as a weapon/snare against the innocent, the unsuspecting victim.

Proverbs 1:10
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
11 If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
12 Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
13 We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
14 Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
15 My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
16 For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
17 Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird.
18 And they lay wait for their own blood; they lurk privily for their own lives.
19 So are the ways of every one that is greedy of gain; which taketh away the life of the owners thereof.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #216 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 10:18pm More of the usual I see. Should've known better expecting an actual intelligible conversation with you.
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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #217 - Nov 8^th, 2012 at 4:32am Islam will dominate the world , yeah right. All taxi drivers must rise!
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Reply #218 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm

Abu Rashid

[quote]The first mention of Hebrews/Israelites is not until about 1200 B.C, not sure how good you are at counting, but that's about half a millennium short of your claim. And even then, they are not mentioned as inhabiting Palestine, perhaps just one small portion. The bulk of it being inhabited by Canaanites, Phillistines and others. [/quote]

Abraham was in Canaan, at the age of 90 or 99 he circumcised himself did he do this to become a Jew or because God told him to do it. Year 1730 BC, God gave the land of Canaan to Abraham.

Jacob is blessed by Isaac in Canaan. He becomes the first Jew and starts the Jewish nation. God gives the land of Israel to Jacob. The Year 1590 BC.

Abdi Heba possibly descendant of Shem, son of Noah, becomes King of Jerusalem sends letters to the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten (another monotheist who believed in only one God and that it was the Sun, no harm in that ) pleading for help to save Jerusalem from attack. The year 1350 BC.

The First King of Israel Saul. Year 879 BC ( some say maybe 1000 BC )

And so endeth the first lesson.

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Reply #219 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Abraham was in Canaan, at the age of 90 or 99 he circumcised himself did he do this to become a Jew or because God told him to do it. Year 1730 BC, God gave the land of Canaan to Abraham.

Jacob is blessed by Isaac in Canaan. He becomes the first Jew and starts the Jewish nation. God gives the land of Israel to Jacob. The Year 1590 BC.

Clearly you don't know what Jew means. A Jew is a descendant of Judah. Judah was a descendant of Abraham (pbuh), therefore claiming Abraham (pbuh) was a Jew is just ludicrous. Even to claim Judah was a Jew would be a stretch.

Also Abraham (pbuh) was the ancestor of not just Jews but Arabs and various other Semitic peoples of the Middle East, therefore such a claim is moot, as it applies to Arabs as well.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

Abdi Heba possibly descendant of Shem, son of Noah, becomes King of Jerusalem sends letters to the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten (another monotheist who believed in only one God and that it was the Sun, no harm in that ) pleading for help to save Jerusalem from attack. The year 1350 BC.

This is just ridiculous. Abdu Heba was not a Jew in any sense of the word. Why on earth you mention his name is beyond me. In fact this only proves that in 1350 B.C.E, Jews were not even inhabiting the city of Jerusalem.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

The First King of Israel Saul. Year 879 BC ( some say maybe 1000 BC )

You might be onto something there. And that is what I said, around 1000 years B.C.E. Which means Jews ruled Palestine for about 1000 years tops, although about half of that they were either not there (deported to Babylon) or just had small vassal towns, with no single unified state, and were really part of another empire like the Romans.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm:

And so endeth the first lesson.

You need a refresher course I think.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #220 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 7:09pm So we have no rights according to you where my ancestors were on this land first? I hope you have say the same to Australian aborigines.
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Reply #221 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 8:50pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 7^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

Muslims only eased the restrictions, not tightened them. You're full of it.
Huh

Caliph Aziz son Hakim, one of your mob, slaughtered all and sundry. In about 1004 AD you devils forced the closure of Churches & Synagogues, turning them into the pagan worship of allah.

This particular Shiite, Shite caring Muslim burnt the Jewish quarter of Cairo. Not satisfied with this the sub human scum then destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

And so endeth the second lesson

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21722 A cat with a view	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #222 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 10:15pm i like this one...... http://www.oldestjoke.com/picture-archive/please-kick-our-asses.html
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Reply #223 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 10:42pm

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 10:26pm:

Hands up anyone without a sense of humour!!

Or without any respect for the peacefully expressed opinions of others......

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Egypt: Complaint filed against Mohamed ElBaradei for opposing Sharia
..........A complaint was filed with the prosecutor general on Sunday by forty Egyptian lawyers, accusing renowned reform campaigner Mohamed ElBaradei of offending Islamists, of being against Islamic sharia law and of having insulted prominent Islamist preachers.

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The wicked miscreant......

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #224 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 11:26pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 7:09pm:

So we have no rights according to you where my ancestors were on this land first?
I hope you have say the same to Australian aborigines.

But you weren't there first laddy, ya weren't.

Ya Din't read your book properly did ya? About the Jebusites and Kennizites and others that you booted out from their homes last time? Quite a history of this, haven't ya?

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