Abu what do you think of the placards they were holding up?

freediver wrote on Sep 19^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:


I think they were inappropriate. But it's really irrelevant what I think anyway.

Only in some deluded worldview where each and every Muslim is somehow accountable for the action of each and every other Muslim would it matter what any other Muslim thought.

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 17^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:



I think you definitely have a legitimate take there Up.

No, people "turn apeshit" when the police baton charge people or spray them with chemical weapons. Horses are a good one, too, nothing to get a crowd worked up and acting violently like riding over them with police horses. Guaranteed a reaction every time.

But, like I said, I wasn't there and, even if I were inclined to trust news footage, I've actually seen very little of it. My only point is that in MY experience, police often initiate violence that gets blamed on protesters.

Once again Upton, you are pointing out some things people often don't recognise, or want to know..
What was especially bad, was the dog savaging the person on the ground. ( Not blaming the dog)

As i said on another thread, if the Police had simply watched, rather than attempt containment, it would have fizzled out pretty quickly.IMO

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:


It is inappropriate to display such signs in a country with a legal system that does not implement capital punishment, and which considers such punishment to be unjust.

There's just simply no need for such signs, as the ones carrying them do not live under an Islamic system, and therefore even speaking about Islamic punishments is just nonsensical.

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:


Since I did not attend the protests, and have nothing to do with them, what relevance does my view hold? I get that you're mentally incapable of realising that what one Muslim does is not the responsibility of every other Muslim.... I'm simply trying to educate you.

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:


I couldn't care less what you think the debate has been about. The debate, in reality, is about peddling xenophobic garbage in order to justify the government's actions here and abroad.

AND  -- I find it suss and offensive that the US Embassy warned 'it's citizens' to stay away.

What a steaming pile of manipulative garbage.

yes Bobby... much more appropriate behaviour.

Yes Emma - it's the fault of the police for turning up.

Ignore the religious nutters & they will go away.

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 17^th, 2012 at 8:56pm:


Yeah . . .. .

Every year in Katoomba we used to have a mardi gras. That is until 1 year the penrith police turned up and started shoving ppl and telling ppl to "move along" etc. It went downhill from there.

SOB