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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered Reply #30 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:25am cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:01am: and whilst I hate to bring this up some have suggested she has got a sympathy vote in there.. I didnt say it though... as if I would think such a thingy It was you who suggested it on another thread... moron.
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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #31 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:26am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

not quiet

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

will I say that again just in case i forget?!!!!!!!

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD.

once more just in case I forget [as if] you understand.?..... hehe.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

The majic went out of the no carbon tax Liberal lie when the world didn't end and Whyalla is still standing.

The majority of people seem to be waking up the the Lieberals dishonest approach.

You need a new slogan this one is finished - shown to be the dishonest rubbish that it is.

It's magic (not majic), Epstein...

Yes I noticed there was "the the" as well - I didn't fix it by choice I forgot that Mr Cotter was on board.

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Reply #32 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:26am

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

]if it isnt a TAX why is it still called a TAX?[/highlight]

it will be called a price in 2014.

either way we will still be paying for it one way or another..they can call it TAX. DUTY.STAMP DUTY.LEVY.REGO.FINE.. to me it all ends up in this great big melting pot..and then they play spin the wheel.

it isn't called a "tax".

Australia introduced a price on carbon on 1 July 2012.
A price on carbon is an incentive for those that will pay it (big polluters) to change the way they do business.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/clean-energy-future.aspx

The objects of this Act are as follows:
(d) to put a price on greenhouse gas emissions in a way that:
                           (i) encourages investment in clean energy; and
                           (ii) supports jobs and competitiveness in the economy; and
                        (iii) supports Australia’s economic growth while reducing pollution.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2011A00131/Html/Text#_Toc308513395

It is a price. As promised. Not a tax. As promised.
It is a carbon price with a 3 year fixed price period, changing to a market based price.

You seem to be getting confused with the Liberal policy. It is the Liberals that will use your tax money to pay polluters.

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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #33 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:28am

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 8:58am:

not quiet

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

will I say that again just in case i forget?!!!!!!!

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD.

once more just in case I forget [as if] you understand.?..... hehe.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

The majic went out of the no carbon tax Liberal lie when the world didn't end and Whyalla is still standing.

The majority of people seem to be waking up the the Lieberals dishonest approach.

You need a new slogan this one is finished - shown to be the dishonest rubbish that it is.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know???????????????? Grin

btw the carbon tax hasnt hit YET... well at least I havent received my rates or power bills. yet since it arrived..

I am watching the veggie prices though and they are beyond me... so I will have to BLAME something wont I.???

isnt that what you do?

the same thing we say about all his other lies probably ....

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Reply #34 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:30am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

]if it isnt a TAX why is it still called a TAX?[/highlight]

it will be called a price in 2014.

either way we will still be paying for it one way or another..they can call it TAX. DUTY.STAMP DUTY.LEVY.REGO.FINE.. to me it all ends up in this great big melting pot..and then they play spin the wheel.

it isn't called a "tax".

Australia introduced a price on carbon on 1 July 2012.
A price on carbon is an incentive for those that will pay it (big polluters) to change the way they do business.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/clean-energy-future.aspx

The objects of this Act are as follows:
(d) to put a price on greenhouse gas emissions in a way that:
                           (i) encourages investment in clean energy; and
                           (ii) supports jobs and competitiveness in the economy; and
                        (iii) supports Australia’s economic growth while reducing pollution.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2011A00131/Html/Text#_Toc308513395

It is a price. As promised. Not a tax. As promised.
It is a carbon price with a 3 year fixed price period, changing to a market based price.

You seem to be getting confused with the Liberal policy. It is the Liberals that will use your tax money to pay polluters.

the libs and the media get much more mileage out of it by calling it a tax ...

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Reply #35 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

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Reply #36 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

It WAS NOT a lie.
It was a non-core promise.

Liberal definition:
A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
- unless it is a NON-CORE PROMISE or it was sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark.

Mind you,the children overboard and WMDs in Iraq - they were lies. Great big ones.

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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #37 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:50am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

]if it isnt a TAX why is it still called a TAX?[/highlight]

it will be called a price in 2014.

either way we will still be paying for it one way or another..they can call it TAX. DUTY.STAMP DUTY.LEVY.REGO.FINE.. to me it all ends up in this great big melting pot..and then they play spin the wheel.

it isn't called a "tax".

Australia introduced a price on carbon on 1 July 2012.
A price on carbon is an incentive for those that will pay it (big polluters) to change the way they do business.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/clean-energy-future.aspx

The objects of this Act are as follows:
(d) to put a price on greenhouse gas emissions in a way that:
                           (i) encourages investment in clean energy; and
                           (ii) supports jobs and competitiveness in the economy; and
                        (iii) supports Australia’s economic growth while reducing pollution.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2011A00131/Html/Text#_Toc308513395

It is a price. As promised. Not a tax. As promised.
It is a carbon price with a 3 year fixed price period, changing to a market based price.

You seem to be getting confused with the Liberal policy. It is the Liberals that will use your tax money to pay polluters.

so this govt isnt paying anyone....not to pollute..

why are they paying compensation.to people if this PRICE as its now called isnt going to affect them???

if you want to split hairs.. you are saying if it was a TAX it would get passed on to the consumer..

if it is called a PRICE it changes things and it doesnt get passed on to the consumer..

if they are paying compensation..if my petrol goes up because of the PRICE and not the TAX.

I am getting paid to pay the extra cost I am not being asked to stop using my car and save the planet..isnt that so??????.

to me ... you are right.. I dont give a stuff what it is called..mess me about with words as you choose..

its the end result that I concern myself with..

if its a PRICE i will not be affected???????

is that right?

but if its called a TAX I will be.... is that right?

if it wont affect me why all this worry about power prices????? doesnt make sense.

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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #38 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:54am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

It WAS NOT a lie.
It was a non-core promise.

Liberal definition:
A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
- unless it is a NON-CORE PROMISE or it was sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark.

Mind you,the children overboard and WMDs in Iraq - they were lies. Great big ones.

the WMD... still hasnt been proven..mmmmmmm... Syria has WMD.. where did they get them????..

as for the children overboard.. did anyone DIE?

I find it strange that you guys believe gillard and THOMO...no matter what. yet when it comes to a Lib you never ever believe them its always the other guy..

I must admit I am a getting that way myself..

did she help disappear millions of hard bloody working unionists money.....of course she did.

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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #39 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:57am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

oh groooooooooooan poor old dna he refuses to believ that Howard took it to the election..

groooooooan will someone put this poor guy out of his misery...

if gillard had said lets go to another election on this CARBON TAX then I would say no more...

times and circumstances change..

I accept that if dna doesnt..

but come on.. we got no say in this whatever..

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Re: Libs say Abbotts days are numbered
Reply #40 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:07am

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

It WAS NOT a lie.
It was a non-core promise.

Liberal definition:
A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
- unless it is a NON-CORE PROMISE or it was sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark.

Mind you,the children overboard and WMDs in Iraq - they were lies. Great big ones.

the WMD... still hasnt been proven..mmmmmmm... Syria has WMD.. where did they get them????..

as for the children overboard.. did anyone DIE?

I find it strange that you guys believe gillard and THOMO...no matter what. yet when it comes to a Lib you never ever believe them its always the other guy..

I must admit I am a getting that way myself..

did she help disappear millions of hard bloody working unionists money.....of course she did.

did anyone did with the carbon tax? I'll say it again, moron.

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Reply #41 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:10am

there will be a liberal senate vacancy soon and costello will fill it and then will become liberal deputy leader and will contest a lower house seat at the next election and will challenge for the leadership when the election is called, like hawke did, and will win and become prime minister with abbott as deputy and then we will have the golden age of the abbott and costello years, laughing all the way to the bank.

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Reply #42 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am

Bertram wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

there will be a liberal senate vacancy soon and costello will fill it and then will become liberal deputy leader and will contest a lower house seat at the next election and will challenge for the leadership when the election is called, like hawke did, and will win and become prime minister with abbott as deputy and then we will have the golden age of the abbott and costello years, laughing all the way to the bank.

Hopefully that will all come true for you. Only Costello is still crying over Howard not steeping down - he will need to get over his need for tissues first. Does excessive masterbation make you dream these strange dreams?

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Reply #43 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:14am

John Smith wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:54am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
...

i wonder what the left would call it if Abbott had said it??????????????

anyone know????????????????

When Howard had promised to never ever introduce a GST under any government he led (exactly the same thing) Labors position (Beasley) was to say we will wait and see what they come up with and see if we can support it or not.

But then had Labor gone dishonestly bezerk in the same manner the Liberals have the media would probably have just ignored them and not reported it - certainly not on a multiple times per day basis for years.

A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
.

Howard committed to not introducing a GST - "Never Ever"

Then we hear but but but etc, if a lie is a lie is a lie then the GST was one mighty big one.

It WAS NOT a lie.
It was a non-core promise.

Liberal definition:
A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE
- unless it is a NON-CORE PROMISE or it was sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark.

Mind you,the children overboard and WMDs in Iraq - they were lies. Great big ones.

the WMD... still hasnt been proven..mmmmmmm... Syria has WMD.. where did they get them????..

as for the children overboard.. did anyone DIE?

I find it strange that you guys believe gillard and THOMO...no matter what. yet when it comes to a Lib you never ever believe them its always the other guy..

I must admit I am a getting that way myself..

did she help disappear millions of hard bloody working unionists money.....of course she did.

did anyone did with the carbon tax? I'll say it again, moron.

Hey DNA and the Rabbit, Joan thinks it's a tax!!!!

Then again Joan couldn't create 7 word sentence....

Cheesy

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Reply #44 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:34am

Bertram wrote on Sep 18^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

there will be a liberal senate vacancy soon and costello will fill it and then will become liberal deputy leader and will contest a lower house seat at the next election and will challenge for the leadership when the election is called, like hawke did, and will win and become prime minister with abbott as deputy and then we will have the golden age of the abbott and costello years, laughing all the way to the bank.

That's got to be a gee up Cheesy

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