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Reply #1110 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

Sir, I am the moderator you seek.

Alrighty. we have a moderator.

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Reply #1111 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 9:12am

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

spots mates sure are interested in rectums,
naughty but nice do a great range of anal beads.

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ItsAllAboutMe New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 31	Re: Spot of Troll Reply #1112 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am I see the Narcissist thread is still going strong.People are still feeding these trolls bait...at least it keeps them away from the adults on the main board...a bit like a nursery.
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Reply #1113 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:45am

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

Sir, I am the moderator you seek.

Alrighty. we have a moderator.

Well go for it then

The 1st thing you’ll have to do is prove is intent, obviously you won’t go far with your “attempted murder” charge, if you can’t show intent.

They couldn’t do it with a group of thug bouncers at Crown casino that killed a man, so I don’t know how well you will go proving the intent of the officers in this case was to kill.

Not sure even the coroner agreed there was intent to kill?

Any way that’s enough help, good luck…..

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Reply #1114 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:46am

ItsAllAboutMe wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

I see the Narcissist thread is still going strong.People are still feeding these trolls bait...at least it keeps them away from the adults on the main board...a bit like a nursery.

exactly
when camping, always squirt a bit of condensed milk about 6 foot from your tent.

keeps the pesty ants from bothering you.

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Reply #1115 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 12:49pm

FriYAY wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

Sir, I am the moderator you seek.

Alrighty. we have a moderator.

Well go for it then

The 1st thing you’ll have to do is prove is intent, obviously you won’t go far with your “attempted murder” charge, if you can’t show intent.

They couldn’t do it with a group of thug bouncers at Crown casino that killed a man, so I don’t know how well you will go proving the intent of the officers in this case was to kill.

Not sure even the coroner agreed there was intent to kill?

Any way that’s enough help, good luck…..

First things first. Let's establish the facts and see where they fit in a legal framework.

On (date) at (time), (person) was reported for commiting an offense and (number) of police (names) sought to spprehend said person.
Said unarmed person resisted arrest and a chase ensued. The officers drew their tasers and repeatedly fired at the person, which led to his death.
I need to know the following:
Was there another method of subduing the person?
What methods other than tasering are taught at the academy to subdue people?
What are the guidelines for use of a taser, including the risks involved, and the number of times a taser may be effectively but safely used on a 'normal' person (The eggshell skull filter?
How soon after the victim was rendered unconscious was medical assistance called for?
What were the nature of the injuries?
What medical assistance did the victim receive, the time it was provided and the nature of the assistance?
When was he pronounced deceased?
Were there any witness statements, and are these reliable?
Was a check of the tasers conducted to determine whether or not they performed within operational standards.

Once we have agreement on the facts and the questions are answered and examined, we then have a scenario to which we may apply legal principles.

I hope the moderator will take an active part.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Spot of Troll Reply #1116 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 1:06pm sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 12:49pm: I hope the moderator will take an active part. you just worry about making assertions, and I will adjudicate on whether they are admissible or not. carry on....
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Reply #1117 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 2:05pm

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

Sir, I am the moderator you seek.

Alrighty. we have a moderator.

Well go for it then

The 1st thing you’ll have to do is prove is intent, obviously you won’t go far with your “attempted murder” charge, if you can’t show intent.

They couldn’t do it with a group of thug bouncers at Crown casino that killed a man, so I don’t know how well you will go proving the intent of the officers in this case was to kill.

Not sure even the coroner agreed there was intent to kill?

Any way that’s enough help, good luck…..

First things first. Let's establish the facts and see where they fit in a legal framework.

On (date) at (time), (person) was reported for commiting an offense and (number) of police (names) sought to spprehend said person.
Said unarmed person resisted arrest and a chase ensued. The officers drew their tasers and repeatedly fired at the person, which led to his death.
I need to know the following:
Was there another method of subduing the person?
What methods other than tasering are taught at the academy to subdue people?
What are the guidelines for use of a taser, including the risks involved, and the number of times a taser may be effectively but safely used on a 'normal' person (The eggshell skull filter?
How soon after the victim was rendered unconscious was medical assistance called for?
What were the nature of the injuries?
What medical assistance did the victim receive, the time it was provided and the nature of the assistance?
When was he pronounced deceased?
Were there any witness statements, and are these reliable?
Was a check of the tasers conducted to determine whether or not they performed within operational standards.

Once we have agreement on the facts and the questions are answered and examined, we then have a scenario to which we may apply legal principles.

I hope the moderator will take an active part.

LOL

I’ll answer the 1st two questions for you – GUNS!!

Get back when you answer the rest, you are the prosecution after all.

And don’t forget – you have to prove the intent of these police officers was to kill, that it was a deliberate act they were carrying out.

Remember, it’s their job to apprehend and subdue people, they have guns and sprays and tasers for this.

Oh and don’t forget the poor bloke is dead……not sure what that means for your case? I guess you’ll have to show he died of something else whilst they were deliberately attempting to murder him.

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Reply #1118 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 3:08pm

... wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 1:06pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

I hope the moderator will take an active part.

you just worry about making assertions, and I will adjudicate on whether they are admissible or not.

carry on....

You are quite right, Your Honour, the assertions were uncalled for.
I request the indulgence of the court. In my opening statement I omitted to request information about the officers records and certain personal matters which are pertinent to the proceedings.
With your permission I shall pursue those avenues.

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Reply #1120 - Dec 13^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

FriYAY wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

FriYAY wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

sanofi wrote on Dec 13^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

sanofi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

This house is made of brick, wolf. Blow yourself out.

I require a moderator to determine fact from fantasy, and also to adjudicate on how much effort you expend in moving the goal posts.

The only way you could win a debate with me is if we played by your rules, as they changed from minute to minute. Even then, goy boy, your chances would be minimal.

A moderator determines the rules of the debate, which include ruling on issues which maybe fact or opinion.

We do not necessarily have to use the Oxford Rules of Debate, although I am familiar with them and these would be my preference.

The white flag? Shove it up your rectum.

Sir, I am the moderator you seek.

Alrighty. we have a moderator.

Well go for it then

The 1st thing you’ll have to do is prove is intent, obviously you won’t go far with your “attempted murder” charge, if you can’t show intent.

They couldn’t do it with a group of thug bouncers at Crown casino that killed a man, so I don’t know how well you will go proving the intent of the officers in this case was to kill.

Not sure even the coroner agreed there was intent to kill?

Any way that’s enough help, good luck…..

First things first. Let's establish the facts and see where they fit in a legal framework.

On (date) at (time), (person) was reported for commiting an offense and (number) of police (names) sought to spprehend said person.
Said unarmed person resisted arrest and a chase ensued. The officers drew their tasers and repeatedly fired at the person, which led to his death.
I need to know the following:
Was there another method of subduing the person?
What methods other than tasering are taught at the academy to subdue people?
What are the guidelines for use of a taser, including the risks involved, and the number of times a taser may be effectively but safely used on a 'normal' person (The eggshell skull filter?
How soon after the victim was rendered unconscious was medical assistance called for?
What were the nature of the injuries?
What medical assistance did the victim receive, the time it was provided and the nature of the assistance?
When was he pronounced deceased?
Were there any witness statements, and are these reliable?
Was a check of the tasers conducted to determine whether or not they performed within operational standards.

Once we have agreement on the facts and the questions are answered and examined, we then have a scenario to which we may apply legal principles.

I hope the moderator will take an active part.

LOL

I’ll answer the 1st two questions for you – GUNS!!

Get back when you answer the rest, you are the prosecution after all.

And don’t forget – you have to prove the intent of these police officers was to kill, that it was a deliberate act they were carrying out.

Remember, it’s their job to apprehend and subdue people, they have guns and sprays and tasers for this.

Oh and don’t forget the poor bloke is dead……not sure what that means for your case? I guess you’ll have to show he died of something else whilst they were deliberately attempting to murder him.

Thank you for the advise, counsel Friyay, I don't know how I would manage without you guidance. (LOL)

Yes, you are correct in that the elements that you mention will need to be closely scrutinised and formulated.

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