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Oct 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
If Drug Addicts were supplied their drugs of addiction they would them not be criminals and have no need to commit crimes to get drugs.

The cost of supplying those drugs would be far less than the cost of replacing the stolen goods alone not to mention other costs, policing, courts and gaols.

Also you would have a register of drug users and not many would prefer to pay street price for drugs if they could get them for almost nothing in comparison.

If a amnesty was held where addicts could apply without naming their supplier, most if not all would sign up.

They would simply go to a doctor or hospital and sign up as a addict (testing required) and get given a prescription for their drugs of addiction.

After the amnesty expires, to get a prescription you would have to name your supplier.

Once you stop calling drug addicts criminals and start treating them like the victims they are, they will likely not become involved in criminal activity. They could even make committing an offence a reason to remove you from the scheme as well as lock you up.

Also this would reduce the cost of drugs to addicts and take the profit margin out of supplying drugs illegally.

If an addict could get a weeks worth of drugs (current street value $1500) for $12.50. Then the street value would drop to nearly that. The drug barons would discover that a million dollars worth of drugs became worth less than the cost of importing it, making Australia a place not worth selling drugs.

As for getting people off the drugs, there will be so many that just helping those that want to get off them will keep the dogooders busy enough they they will never get to those that don't want to quit.

The money that you are all about to claim this will cost is actually very low (that's why there is so much money in the industry), drugs don't cost much to produce. Also the government made drugs would be much cleaner and cause many less deaths.

The amount of money that would stay in the country instead of going to supply Afghanistan drug lords guns and bullets to shoot at our soldiers is just another consideration. It doesn't make sense to send drug money to people that are at war with us, but we are sending billions and our insurance companies are paying the cost and us paying them.

I say supply our own addicts and treat them with the money we save. This may cost billions, but it will save a hell of a lot more at the same time as reducing crime and making our country a safer place to live.

Take the money out of the industry and it will go away, there is only one way to do that.

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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2012 at 11:24am
 
some of your ideas are valid, some are not, but the basic premise of taking the money out of drugs, is paramount, and the only viable long term way to address drug issues.
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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2012 at 12:19pm
 
IMO if you make drugs legal ppl will lost interest in the drugs. Some will some will just be the same as they are now and into pharmaceutical drugs.

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Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 4:38pm
 
I am a smoker
they want to stick gruesome images on cigarette packs..??
Why not pictures of obese children on McDonald's packaging..?
Why not tortured animals on cosmetics products..?
Why not put the photos of the victims of drunken drivers, on beer and wine bottles..? Why not pictures of dishonest, thieving Politicians enjoying our money, on tax returns..?
Although some of you may agree..
I'll Bet none of you copy. I want to see who is brave enough even if you are not a smoker
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Reply #4 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 3:07am
 
Unworthy wrote on Oct 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:
The cost of supplying those drugs would be far less than the cost of replacing the stolen goods alone not to mention other costs, policing, courts and gaols.







This is exactly why drugs will never be legalised, its a billion dollar industry, not just for bikie gangs but for cops judges and lawyers too, most crime is drug related, take away that crime and their will be a lot of unhappy unemployed cops etc. not to mention the prisons will be empty, do you think many prison guards would want drugs legalized  Grin
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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 5:40am
 

I agree with pretty much all of the comments on this thread.

As do many 'normal' people.
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Reply #6 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:00am
 
Unworthy wrote on Oct 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:
If Drug Addicts were supplied their drugs of addiction they would them not be criminals and have no need to commit crimes to get drugs.

The cost of supplying those drugs would be far less than the cost of replacing the stolen goods alone not to mention other costs, policing, courts and gaols.

Also you would have a register of drug users and not many would prefer to pay street price for drugs if they could get them for almost nothing in comparison.





Yes and we shpu;ld supply them with a a house and round the clock medical carer (in case they overdose) as well as a maid and chef; because people who on the nod are not capable of looking after themselves and we don't want that expence do we?

Yes I think Ill take up heroin, looks like a top deal, free drugs and someone to wipe my arse for me.






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Reply #7 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:53am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:00am:
Unworthy wrote on Oct 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:
If Drug Addicts were supplied their drugs of addiction they would them not be criminals and have no need to commit crimes to get drugs.

The cost of supplying those drugs would be far less than the cost of replacing the stolen goods alone not to mention other costs, policing, courts and gaols.

Also you would have a register of drug users and not many would prefer to pay street price for drugs if they could get them for almost nothing in comparison.





Yes and we shpu;ld supply them with a a house and round the clock medical carer (in case they overdose) as well as a maid and chef; because people who on the nod are not capable of looking after themselves and we don't want that expence do we?

Yes I think Ill take up heroin, looks like a top deal, free drugs and someone to wipe my arse for me.


your ignorance continues .
this is a serious topic with sensible comments.
your absense would be appreciated
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:54am
 

It is the illegality of some drugs that causes the vast majority of the problems.

drugs ain't beneficial.
But giving someone a record for growing pot is much worse than the effects of smoking said pot
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Reply #9 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 9:10am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:53am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 7:00am:
Unworthy wrote on Oct 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm:
If Drug Addicts were supplied their drugs of addiction they would them not be criminals and have no need to commit crimes to get drugs.

The cost of supplying those drugs would be far less than the cost of replacing the stolen goods alone not to mention other costs, policing, courts and gaols.

Also you would have a register of drug users and not many would prefer to pay street price for drugs if they could get them for almost nothing in comparison.





Yes and we shpu;ld supply them with a a house and round the clock medical carer (in case they overdose) as well as a maid and chef; because people who on the nod are not capable of looking after themselves and we don't want that expence do we?

Yes I think Ill take up heroin, looks like a top deal, free drugs and someone to wipe my arse for me.


your ignorance continues .
this is a serious topic with sensible comments.
your absense would be appreciated


So all comments must be pre-approved by you personally, or you will demand that they're forced into non participation on this 'public' board; is that what you are saying?

Good to know fascism is still alive and well in some parts of the world

Mine was a serious comment, albeit laden with sarcasm, but I wasn't joking; I just was't agreeing with you. So I can see why you are so angry with my comment.


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Reply #10 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
I think there would be some legal problems in the future.

If the government was dishing out drugs that caused health problems.

Perhaps we give drugs to all the lawyers first.

I have an open mind on the idea, you can imprison people in a prison or in a dependency.

There is probably no easy right answer.
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Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 6:40pm
 
Legalise drugs, it will still only cause one tenth of the problems alcohol causes and we accept that.
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Reply #12 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 10:20pm
 
IB its a double edged argument you just put forward.

I hate alcohol and Australia's addiction to it, yet to admit how bad one drug is, sort of makes it strange to advocate using more of them.

I have a feeling that if the government legalised some drugs it would probably have to draw the line somewhere.
What if a recreational drug had side effects like Thalidomide, I cant see any government allowing that.
So there would still be prohibition, just the line on prohibition would have shifted.
I cant see the crims that make billions from drugs not creating new drugs that will be outside the law because of side effects, thus creating the same problem we have now.

So why would anybody try an illegal drug when there are hundreds of legal ones?

Stuffed if I know, but they will.

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Reply #13 - Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:06pm
 
There are no easy answers thats for sure.  Cry
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Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:48pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 10:20pm:
IB its a double edged argument you just put forward.

I hate alcohol and Australia's addiction to it, yet to admit how bad one drug is, sort of makes it strange to advocate using more of them.

I have a feeling that if the government legalised some drugs it would probably have to draw the line somewhere.
What if a recreational drug had side effects like Thalidomide, I cant see any government allowing that.
So there would still be prohibition, just the line on prohibition would have shifted.
I cant see the crims that make billions from drugs not creating new drugs that will be outside the law because of side effects, thus creating the same problem we have now.

So why would anybody try an illegal drug when there are hundreds of legal ones?

Stuffed if I know, but they will.




Laws change.

To legally supply a substance to addicted people to help society is a good idea, imho.

It's marginal call that people won't see it as 'legalising' all drugs.
Thing is, what the law does now is failing and costing many people a lot while profiting criminals and the legal system.

The prohibition failed.


bigol - stick your sarcasm where it hurts most.
Go get hooked on smack, let us know how cool it is.

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