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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #180 - Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:03pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:43pm:
There is no reasoning with Islamists. Their only demand is that you surrender and submit. You can either kill them all or you can surrender.


You sound exactly like the terrorists.

You do realise that, don't you?

You're no better than them.




Please tell me what alternative demands they have, other than submitting to Islam or paying the submission tax?




I don't deal with terrorists, sorry.

Here's hoping ASIO is monitoring your internet.


Cheesy

Why would they monitor my internet for asking you a question that you cannot answer?


You are a potential terrorist.

"You can either kill them all or you can surrender."

You are no better than them.

I'm sure the authorities will catch up with you eventually.


Cheesy

That's IT????


You are just a one line reactionary - no ideas of your own, only shallow little quips about everyone else's ideas.
That way you can seem - which is all you ever want - to SEEM.



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Reply #181 - Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 8:03pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:43pm:
There is no reasoning with Islamists. Their only demand is that you surrender and submit. You can either kill them all or you can surrender.


You sound exactly like the terrorists.

You do realise that, don't you?

You're no better than them.




Please tell me what alternative demands they have, other than submitting to Islam or paying the submission tax?




I don't deal with terrorists, sorry.

Here's hoping ASIO is monitoring your internet.


Cheesy

Why would they monitor my internet for asking you a question that you cannot answer?


You are a potential terrorist.

"You can either kill them all or you can surrender."

You are no better than them.

I'm sure the authorities will catch up with you eventually.


Cheesy

That's IT????




We'll see.

I've passed on your details.

Sleep well tonight.

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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #182 - Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.
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Reply #183 - Apr 2nd, 2016 at 9:55pm
 
Now now, G, FD has never said he's unwilling to use a few porkies in the fight for Freeeeedom.

In fact, every time you ask him about this, he disappears.
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Reply #184 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 8:28am
 
State Department's National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism: Annex of Statistical Information:

SIGNIFICANT TRENDS
Although terrorist attacks took place in 95 countries in 2014, they were heavily concentrated geographically. More than 60% of all attacks took place in five countries (Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, and Nigeria), and 78% of all fatalities due to terrorist attacks took place in five countries (Iraq, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria).

The number of terrorist attacks in 2014 increased 35% and total fatalities increased 81% compared to 2013, largely due to activity in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. In certain countries, including Greece, Nepal, Northern Ireland, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Russia, terrorist attacks and total fatalities decreased.

The 81% increase in total fatalities was, in part, a result of certain attacks that were exceptionally lethal. In 2014, there were 20 attacks that killed more than 100 people, compared to two such attacks in 2013.

Terrorism in 2014 was marked by numerous kidnappings and hostage-taking events. More than 9,400 people were kidnapped or taken hostage in terrorist attacks in 2014, three times as many as in 2013. This trend was concentrated in certain countries, including Iraq, Nigeria, and Syria, and was particularly influenced by an increase in attacks that involved large numbers of hostages.

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Reply #185 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.


He copied and pasted the statistics. I asked him to copy and paste an example of non-Muslim terrorism, multiple times.
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Reply #186 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.


He copied and pasted the statistics. I asked him to copy and paste an example of non-Muslim terrorism, multiple times.


And, I did.

I posted at least a half a dozen examples, as requested.


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Reply #187 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:38pm
 
Look I love to argue, but these Islam threads give me a headache.

I'm just going to jump in to summarize the situation and get out without a skull splitter.

"Terrorism" has no inherit meaning. It is a term that is defined by the user's perspective. Americas "shock and awe" campaign would be viewed as terrorism by Iraq's population.   

Therefore terrorism statistics are not so much a measure of violence but rather a measure of violence which is purported to be politically or religiously motivated.

I'm fighting terrorism by ignoring all the entities who use the term as a smokescreen to deflect debate on topics which actually matter. e.g Taxation, education and law reform.

Join me in my fight against the meaningless formless distracting subject and pick something constructive to argue about!
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Reply #188 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.


He copied and pasted the statistics. I asked him to copy and paste an example of non-Muslim terrorism, multiple times.


And, I did.

I posted at least a half a dozen examples, as requested.




Yes, Greggery, but you lost your ability to cut and paste, remember? FD ressurected this thread to prove this.
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Reply #189 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 6:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.


He copied and pasted the statistics. I asked him to copy and paste an example of non-Muslim terrorism, multiple times.


And, I did.

I posted at least a half a dozen examples, as requested.




So you are not denying my version of events?

Do you think the statistics you posted reflect the relative magnitude of the terrorism problem?
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Reply #190 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 6:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 6:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 7:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 1st, 2016 at 9:13am:
OK.

I'm reading "Here is another recent thread where Greg pulled out the statistics, but temporarily lost his ability to copy and paste when asked for some examples of the nature of non-Muslim terrorism"

Do posts 123 and 133 contradict what you said here? Help me understand FD.


No they don't. If you read the thread, Greg only posted the examples after I made an issue of his repeated posting of those statistics, but unwillingness to post any examples of the nature of the terrorism captured by the statistics.


LOL what rubbish.

Your first reference to him not posting any examples is in post 93, to which greg immediately replied there were examples in the link (which there is). You then made your first request for examples in post 95 (God knows why) - to which he provided his first copy and paste from his link 3 minutes later in post 96. You then thanked him for it.

Most absurdly, a few pages later you started this nonsense that, in your words:

Quote:
It took a lot of prompting to get you to post the examples


when actually, you prompted precisely once, and got what you requested 3 minutes later.


He copied and pasted the statistics. I asked him to copy and paste an example of non-Muslim terrorism, multiple times.


And, I did.

I posted at least a half a dozen examples, as requested.




So you are not denying my version of events?



You asked for an example of a non-Muslim terrorism, and I then provided several examples (half a dozen, at least).

These are the facts.

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Reply #191 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:02pm
 
So that's a yes?

Do you think the statistics you posted reflect the relative magnitude of the terrorism problem?
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Reply #192 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:02pm:
So that's a yes?

Do you think the statistics you posted reflect the relative magnitude of the terrorism problem?


We've been through this already.

I consider all terrorism a problem.

However, a terrorist act that involves graffiti is (quite obviously) in no way as serious as one that involves the loss of life.

Moreover, nobody has ever suggested that it is.

You asked for an example of non-Muslim terrorism, and I provided you with many.

If you think you're not going to like the answer, don't ask the question.
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Reply #193 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:32pm
 
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However, a terrorist act that involves graffiti is (quite obviously) in no way as serious as one that involves the loss of life.


I see you are suddenly keen to use examples. Let's get back to the bigger picture for a moment.

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Moreover, nobody has ever suggested that it is.


That's a big call to make. Instead of suddenly deciding to speak on behalf of the rest of humanity, how about you speak for yourself? Usually when people present statistics, it is because they feel the statistics capture something meaningful. What do you think? Do you think the statistics you posted reflect the relative magnitude of the Islamic terrorism problem? If you have already given a straight answer and I somehow missed it, feel free to quote yourself.
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Reply #194 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 4th, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Do you think the statistics you posted reflect the relative magnitude of the Islamic terrorism problem?


The statistics I posted provided evidence that not all terrorist attacks are carried out by Muslims.

Moreover, the examples I provided proved my point beyond all doubt.

As I said: if you think you're not going to like the answer, you really shouldn't ask the question.

Chalk this one up as a lesson well learned.
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