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Reply #240 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

A lot less time than it would have taken to read that web page.

I was actually more interested in his reluctance to post examples, given that he obviously went to the trouble of finding them and he was more than happy to copy and paste the statistics.

But, FD, that's not possible. You said Greggery had forgotten how to cut and paste, remember?

Would you like Greggery to rewrite his examples for you?

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Reply #241 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:56pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

A lot less time than it would have taken to read that web page.

I was actually more interested in his reluctance to post examples

No reluctance at all.

I posted several examples.

Telling the same lie over and over again won't make it come true.

You asked, and I provided.

You were shocked that I could come up with so many examples, so you quickly started to duck and weave.

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Reply #242 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

A lot less time than it would have taken to read that web page.

I was actually more interested in his reluctance to post examples

No reluctance at all.

I posted several examples.

Telling the same lie over and over again won't make it come true.

You asked, and I provided.

You were shocked that I could come up with so many examples, so you quickly started to duck and weave.

Greggery, that's just unfair. FD's point now is that you posted too many examples. How could he possibly have the time to read them?

It's much quicker to tell you to post more examples, you know.

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Reply #243 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

A lot less time than it would have taken to read that web page.

I was actually more interested in his reluctance to post examples

No reluctance at all.

I posted several examples.

Telling the same lie over and over again won't make it come true.

You asked, and I provided.

You were shocked that I could come up with so many examples, so you quickly started to duck and weave.

Yes Greg, eventually you did, when the examples themselves became less embarrassing for you than your reluctance to post them. Then you invented quotes on my behalf because I never said what you attributed to me.

Do you think your statistics accurately capture the terrorism problem?

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Reply #244 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 2:15pm

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

A lot less time than it would have taken to read that web page.

I was actually more interested in his reluctance to post examples

No reluctance at all.

I posted several examples.

Telling the same lie over and over again won't make it come true.

You asked, and I provided.

You were shocked that I could come up with so many examples, so you quickly started to duck and weave.

Yes Greg, eventually you did, when the examples themselves became less embarrassing for you than your reluctance to post them. Then you invented quotes on my behalf because I never said what you attributed to me.

How could they be embarrassing - they were exactly what you asked for?

Moreover, there was no reluctance to post them. No matter how many times you tell that lie, it won't come true.

And, I did not invent any quotes.

As I've already explained to you before: you asked, and I provided.

You were then so shocked that I could come up with so many examples, you decided to change tact.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48844 At my desk.	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #245 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm Quote: Moreover, there was no reluctance to post them. So how many times did I ask you for an example first Greg? Quote: How could they be embarrassing Hmm, let's see now. Do you think your statistics accurately capture the terrorism problem?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136695 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #246 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:42pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm: So how many times did I ask you for an example first Greg? No idea. How many? freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 3:38pm: Do you think your statistics accurately capture the terrorism problem? Yes. They come straight from the FBI.
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Reply #247 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm

Was there something about the wording of the question that made you willing to answer this time?

Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem? Hint: the answer has nothing to do with where the statistics come from.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136695 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #248 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:26pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm: Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem? No. All terrorism is a problem. I've told you this before.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48844 At my desk.	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #249 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:37pm: Is an attack that causes death worse than a graffiti attack, or an incinerated car? Absolutely. Why do you ask, anyway?
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Reply #250 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:46pm

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Is an attack that causes death worse than a graffiti attack, or an incinerated car? Absolutely.

Why do you ask, anyway?

And?

Do you have a point? If so, get to it before we all die.

I don't think you have one, though. I think you're still butthurt.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48844 At my desk.	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #251 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:49pm You don't even realise do you Greg?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136695 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #252 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:53pm freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:49pm: You don't even realise do you Greg? I realise that you have no point, and that you were very embarrassed (and surprised) when I provided the information you asked for.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95387 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #253 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:06pm FD, are you a racist? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #254 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem?

No.

All terrorism is a problem.

I've told you this before.

Not all terrorism is the same. To pretend that they have no different motivations is just wilfully stupid.

You can't have a handle on Islamic terrorism is you pretend that hey are no different to Quaker terrorism. It is completely unacceptable to ignore the Islamic roots of Islamic terrorism and to pretend that their ideology has nothing to do with what they do.

Islamic terrorism must be tackled as Islamic, not as some generic, no-name same-as-same as terrorism. Islam IS a player in terrorism, don't try to excuse it all the time.

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