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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #60 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:01pm

ian wrote on Apr 19^th, 2014 at 8:57pm:

moses wrote on Apr 18^th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

All you have to do is prove that muslims who are committing atrocities on a daily basis in 2014, do not believe they are observing the commands of allah, the preachings of muhammad, the teachings of islam, and the verses in the qur'an.

If you can't, then I'll take their atrocities and islamic doctrines, as being inextricably linked.

Over to you, prove me wrong.

there is zero dispute that there are far more terrorist acts and atrocities committed daily by "Christians" than by Muslims.

ian wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2014 at 7:11pm:

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Sure, if you count graffiti as terrorism, there is no dispute at all.

I dont count graffitti as terrorism, why would you?

ian wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2014 at 10:36pm:

here ya go FD, enjoy

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Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t
The results are stark, and prove decisively that not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, a whopping 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; a good 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Leftist groups accounted for over sixteen times as much terrorism as radical Islamic groups. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2006 to 2008 could be attributed to extremist Muslims.

Here are the official tables provided in the reports…

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 10:50am:

moses wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 12:01pm:

I take it you are backing away from the request to prove that muslims don't commit atrocities in accordance with the teachings of: islam, allah, muhammad, qur'an.

A lot of violent wackjobs try to justify their actions by using religion, it should be noted that the vast majority of the worlds Muslims are entirely peaceful and want the same security and prosperity for their families that you and I do. Im on record as stating that I beleive Middle eastern culture incompatible with western society as far as immigration goes but the distinction needs to be made between culture and religion, and my point here is that vastly more Christians use their religion as an excuse for their violent actions than Muslims do.

Add a bit of hypocrisy for good measure:

ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:43pm:

Adamant wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 3:14pm:

Quote "Of a total of 143 court proceedings in 2007, 54 percent were related to separatist terrorism, whilst 38 percent were related to Islamist terrorism. Only one trial in 2007 concerned right-wing terrorism. This trial confirmed the sentence imposed on an individual previously convicted of the bombing of the Bologna railway in 1980."

Which resulted in 198 trials for Islamic terrorism out of a total of 449. That means about 44% of all terror acts were carried out by muslims. 30% of the muslims were found not guilty.

I do so love loonwatch its as good as tell mama in the UK which is now defunct after the Government stopped funding as it told too many lies.

No harm in trying though Ian, none at all.

P/S Been thru all this crap before with the old crew.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/tesat2008.pdf

Dont you think its a trifle dishonest to represent the statistics for Italy and falsely represent them as being for the whole of Europe? particularly as you conclude that the source you got them from is unreliable?Not a good start for you here Adamant. Please dont presume I wont notice dishonesty and lying.
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ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 8:53pm:

I am calling bullshit on what Ian posted.

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No problem, post your statistics and source then.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #61 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:08pm Run away FD? Quote your stats.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95392 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #62 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:11pm ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:08pm: Run away FD? Quote your stats. Now now, FD asks the questions here. Or in this case, quotes the quotes. FD doesn’t have to say a thing. This, you see, is Freedom. And it’s something your Muselman wouldn’t understand.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48844 At my desk.	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #63 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:14pm ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:08pm: Run away FD? Quote your stats. You posted this. Not me. I merely have to dispute it to demonstrate what an idiotic claim it is. Quote: there is zero dispute that there are far more terrorist acts and atrocities committed daily by "Christians" than by Muslims.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #64 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:21pm i also posted statistics and a source to back up my claim, you dispute them. Fair enough, post your source.
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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #65 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:21pm

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:14pm:

ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Run away FD? Quote your stats.

You posted this. Not me. I merely have to dispute it to demonstrate what an idiotic claim it is.

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there is zero dispute that there are far more terrorist acts and atrocities committed daily by "Christians" than by Muslims.

Aren’t you also disputing the statistics of Europol?

You know, the ones where they went around and counted all those terrorist strikes?

Please explain.

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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #66 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:23pm

Heres what the FBI has to say about terrorist attacks on US soil.

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Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil
An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/terror02_05#terror_05sum

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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #67 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm

ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:21pm:

i also posted statistics and a source to back up my claim, you dispute them. Fair enough, post your source.

My stance is that you are full of crap, your statistics do not in any way back up your original claim, and they grossly misrepresent the threat of terrorism within Europe.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #68 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm Right, so you have nothing except an unsubstatiated opinion. Gotcha
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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #69 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:26pm How about the invasion of Iraq, the invasion Afghanistan, the invasion of Vietnam or the bombing of Hiroshima? Christians have killed many times more people than Muslims have. Every hijacking, mass poisoning, bombing outside of WWII, and abortion clinic shooting in Australia has been performed by Christians.
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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #70 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:27pm

It is merely your (idiotic) opinion that "there is zero dispute that there are far more terrorist acts and atrocities committed daily by "Christians" than by Muslims". It is merely your opinion that the European statistics validate this stupid claim. I don't even know whether you believe that the European statistics adequately capture the terrorist threat within Europe. It doesn't take much thought to realise that they systematically downplay Islamic terrorism.

Copying and pasting statistics is not a substitute for thinking for yourself.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #71 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:28pm dont come in this thread with your fancy facts and truth TC, unsubstantiated opinions is what we want here.
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Re: Islamic terrorism statistics
Reply #72 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:28pm

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:24pm:

ian wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:21pm:

i also posted statistics and a source to back up my claim, you dispute them. Fair enough, post your source.

My stance is that you are full of crap.

Good point, FD. Did you borrow your stance from Y?

His information comes from a Higher Source.

You know, Islamreligionofpeace, Jihadwatch, etc, etc, etc.

Also, Y believes in Gud.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95392 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #73 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm Now now, friends, there are no right or wrong answers. FD’s stance is as equally valid as anyone else’s. FD, you see, believes in thinking for yourself. By the way, FD, who told you to do that?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95392 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorism statistics Reply #74 - Apr 23^rd, 2014 at 11:22pm magpie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 2:02pm: in looking at the thread so far, I see a lack of balance and objectivity. No no, that’s just thinking for yourself. FD’s been doing this, it seems, since October, 2012.
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