Soren wrote on Oct 16
th, 2012 at 10:53am:
Defending Islam, with violence: Trial of Salafist man rivets GermanyThe judge asks him to "imagine you are a policeman and it’s your job to ensure order. In your eyes, would you be a justified target?"
"Yes," says Murat K., continuing: "The German state allows caricatures of Muhammad to be shown, so the police are automatically involved."
But what if a Court said it was okay for the caricatures to be shown, the judge asked. "Your values make it possible to insult the Prophet. Islam prohibits that. The price for doing that in Islam is the death sentence. You have your freedom of opinion, but as a Muslim, a believer, Islam must be my opinion."
It was at this point that
Judge Reinhoff asked: "You have to use violence to defend Islamic values?" and Murat K. replied: "Yes, of course."http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1701565/Defending-Islam-with-violence-Trial-o... Quote:.....It was at this point that Judge Reinhoff asked: "You have to use violence to defend Islamic values?" and Murat K. replied: "Yes, of course."
These are NOT reasonable people.Moslems are taught by their religion, that [by the fact of moslems themselves choosing to live in countries like Australia, Germany, etc] they, moslems,
are being 'oppressed' [by the political state which hosts their community].
That is because, moslems [taught by ISLAMIC tenets], consider the laws of the non-moslem states that they live in, to be unjust, in applying to [in being enforced against] moslems.
Moslems want Sharia law [alone], to apply, to moslems,
and moslems want Sharia law, as a very deliberate means of [oppressing] establishing moslem
mastery over all non-moslems.
And every concession in law, made to moslems, by a non-moslem host community will slowly give more, and more, political power to the [guest] moslem community.
And that is a very deliberate process, that the [guest] moslem community is always working for.
REASON [i.e. a warning to us] IS HERE, FOR ALL WHO WOULD LISTEN [or read it].....
Quote:"......he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him;"
John Locke 1632-170
John Locke 1632-1704http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1242692863/0#0+++
What moslems are effectively doing [wherever they can], [within host nations] is to use intimidation and violent means to increasingly create a state of anarchy [lawlessness] in those [non-Sharia] states where they reside.
Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems stating, that they really are violently intolerant, of any world-view which does not coincide with their own world-view.
Because, with that accompanying lawlessness, moslems know that an 'opportunity' comes, for moslems, to change the status quo in that society in turmoil.
And that is the modus operandi of moslems/Jihad, in the West, in any society.
Create increasing societal chaos, .....then offer stability, through empowering moslem rule and mastery, over a society.
"
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission,
and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are
hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29