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Doesn't seem very diverse to me.

It's a bit of a vicious circle. New arrivals are faced with an ingrained racist attitude that exists in so many Australians. It's normal to react with a similar rejection or to hold tighter to their own cultural values.

I didn't say all Australians.

What I said is truth. Isn't it?

Why not you admitted the violence in the history? Because you want to do it again?

Facing the truth, facing the history. It will lead to a healthy society.

What I want to tell you is every culture have the bad part. You should learn the good part from any cultures and abandon the bad part of any culture including your own.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 10:40am:


I think that any person from any Nation who will not, or merely do not embrace multiculturalism politically and legally are divisive and bigoted and have no business pointing the finger at those nations and their peoples who do strive in multiculturalism.

That includes your Chinese culture.

To create a civilization irrespective of your ethnicity or creed is a violent act. There is no exception to this so far as history can say. Therefore, every civilization that exists today, or that has ever existed, has a history of violence at its core.

The most successful nations also happen to be the most violent. Rome and The West are examples of that... Primacy then comes at a cost. But it is a cost that many nations are willing to pay.

Now... Enter the Dragon. Pay attention to the need for violence as they further their Civilization.

I would argue that without great violence, a Civilization cannot progress.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:
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What the f*ck is it with immigrants coming here and doing their best to sh*t on the people that allows them in and to flourish.
It's little wonder people become suspicious of newly arrived immigrants when they spend most of their time telling the people who live here how horrible they and their past are. [/quote] [/quote]


Everyone who has read a bit of history knows about the church's horrific punishments. What is the point of bringing it up? Easy, to make people feel guilt, to make us feel shame. It's all been rectified. The church has been separated from the state, capital punishment is outlawed (something that is not in China; the country that executes more people than every other country combined).
Maybe you could drag up all the good stuff the West has done? If it wasn't for the West's influence millions of Chinese would probably still be illiterate rice paddy workers.

I fully admit. The history of the West was brutal. Yet, every country that has adopted the modern world owes it all to the European states who sacrificed so many of their men when the states were competing against each other trying to outdo each other. This competition led to advancement; the European states constantly tried to keep the edge over the other by inventing new technology. We all live today off the capital (I mean cultural and technological capital and not just economic capital) that Europe created.

European advancements weren't created by being nice. Very little ever gets created by being nice. Advancements, in any discipline, takes competition, intellect, experimentation, pain, will, vigour, strength, and domination. [/quote]

Yeah well no reason to keep bringing up germany's past atrocities either

SOB

I'd say the Islamic civilisation and the Chinese civilisation for instance were examples of the latter, as opposed to Rome and Britain->America.
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Don't you ever tell the truth dude! Both China and Persia and every other civilisation on earth (both past and present)uses or has used the sword. You should think before you write. Civilisations don't come about through the use of nice words.