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bludger Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 314 Gender:	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #15 - Oct 18^th, 2012 at 9:12pm Evolution is not a theory it is a fact. Religion is not a fact or a theory it is B/S.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21818 A cat with a view	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #16 - Oct 18^th, 2012 at 9:41pm bludger wrote on Oct 18^th, 2012 at 9:12pm: Evolution is not a theory it is a fact. Religion is not a fact or a theory it is B/S. I'm convinced. You argument is so persuasive.
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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #17 - Oct 18^th, 2012 at 10:47pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

http://www.rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific_evidence_of_evolution_being_a_hoax

Given that most religious people, other than a handful of Fundamentalists, accept the Theory of Evolution, what is the point in this thread and what does this have to do with Atheism?

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #18 - Oct 18^th, 2012 at 11:21pm

Frances wrote on Oct 18^th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

http://www.rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific_evidence_of_evolution_being_a_hoax

Given that most religious people, other than a handful of Fundamentalists, accept the Theory of Evolution, what is the point in this thread and what does this have to do with Atheism?

Frances,

I am sure that your characterisation of 'most religious people' [in this age] is correct accurate.

But the opinion of the majority, is not always a correct opinion, ....imo.

The truth is that we, human beings, know almost nothing about our circumstances here, in this 'reality'.

And we base our assumptions about what is real, upon our flawed perceptions of what we imagine is reality.

But there are lots of things which we cannot see, and lots of things which we can not even perceive with our human senses, but those 'un-sensed' things do have a reality.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #19 - Oct 18^th, 2012 at 11:42pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 18^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

But there are lots of things which we cannot see, and lots of things which we can not even perceive with our human senses, but those 'un-sensed' things do have a reality.

Meditate, fast [and do not take psychotropic drugs], and isolate yourself from this world [i.e. from other distracting people]...
....and see if your perception of 'reality' changes.

Not easy.

The 'pleasures' and distractions of this world are seductive.

Matthew 4:2
And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

Matthew 17:21
.....this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #20 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 4:52am

Blah blah bible verse bible verse . . . .. . .

Most religious ppl acknowledge science nowadays. Some do not though which is weird. Cardinal pel acknowledged that the adam and eve story was metaphorical but my flatmate doesnt (and he is catholic) so go figger. Cardinal pel did say the body and blood of christ were real though - not metaphorical. Hahahaha.

The catholic sect seems to be a lil more sensible than the AOG though because they wont acknowledge evolution @ all. @ any rate what does it matter? We wont know in our lifetimes what started life. We know already how it evolved. Why is it so important to some ppl? Because they dont want to die? Too bad it will happen.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #21 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 4:52am:

Blah blah bible verse bible verse . . . .. . .

Most religious ppl acknowledge science nowadays. Some do not though which is weird. Cardinal pel acknowledged that the adam and eve story was metaphorical but my flatmate doesnt (and he is catholic) so go figger. Cardinal pel did say the body and blood of christ were real though - not metaphorical. Hahahaha.

The catholic sect seems to be a lil more sensible than the AOG though because they wont acknowledge evolution @ all. @ any rate what does it matter? We wont know in our lifetimes what started life. We know already how it evolved. Why is it so important to some ppl? Because they dont want to die? Too bad it will happen.

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That would make for interesting conversation.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #22 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 7:52pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 18^th, 2012 at 11:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 18^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

But there are lots of things which we cannot see, and lots of things which we can not even perceive with our human senses, but those 'un-sensed' things do have a reality.

Meditate, fast [and do not take psychotropic drugs], and isolate yourself from this world [i.e. from other distracting people]...
....and see if your perception of 'reality' changes.

Not easy.

The 'pleasures' and distractions of this world are seductive.

Matthew 4:2
And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

Matthew 17:21
.....this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 4:52am:

Blah blah bible verse bible verse . . . .. . .

SOB

A devout moslem fasts and prays to 'Allah',
.....and after being told to call on the name of Jesus, he experiences the presence of God...

A Muslim's Conversion to Christianity - Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6KEAp6sqQ

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26510 Australia	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #23 - Oct 21^st, 2012 at 5:27am So yadda - do you acknowledge evolution or not? SOB
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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #24 - Oct 21^st, 2012 at 9:43am

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But here is some evidence of the theory of evolution being a hoax, in the form of;
1/ a photo,
2/ a 'scientific' claim [about the age of the insects shown in the photo],
3/ and reasoning applied, to what we see.....

Your reasoning shows your complete lack of understanding about scientific fact you so adamantly detest..

Firstly you are talking about superficial changes, you know nothing about the spiders internal evolutions of which there have been many to produce some spiders we see today. Including adapting to climate, environment and breeding pressures.

Secondly, please tell me what reason a spider has to change physically?
Why would an animal at the top of its food chain risk its superiority unless something predated it for example?
Even then the changes would not be physical, the spider you have pictured is similar to the recluses we see today meaning it was able to adapt with tactic rather then physical change.

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Because, the claim is that apes evolved into humans [i.e. ourselves], over a much shorter time span, than 100-Million-Years.

Because they had to adapt to environmental change or risk extinction.

If your going to oppose something at least understand what you are opposing.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #25 - Oct 21^st, 2012 at 9:24pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 21^st, 2012 at 5:27am:

So yadda - do you acknowledge evolution or not?

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The theory of evolution, is the, 'creation', of mankind.

The theory of evolution was devised, by man, so as to exclude the need to refer to God, the creator.

All creatures [including homo sapien sapien] have been experiencing a process of devolution [not evolution] since creation.

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Q.
Does man improve his circumstance, himself, when he allows more scope of action, when he removes all limits upon his actions?
Or,
Q.
Does man improve his circumstance, himself, his judgement, when he apply's considered rules to govern his actions in this world?

Look at the world of mankind, today.

What path is mankind on?

Dictionary;
confusion = =
1 uncertainty.
2 the state of being bewildered.

Dictionary;
refinement = = remove impurities or unwanted elements from.

adulterate = = render poorer in quality by adding another substance.

devolution = =
1 the devolving of power by central government to local or regional administration.
2 formal descent or degeneration to a lower or worse state.
3 evolutionary degeneration.

At the time of creation, human bodily reproductive functions were exceptionally strong, and our physical bodies were much closer to being perfect, THEN, not now.

Human beings, our bodies, are currently in an advanced process of devolution.

Today, many some scientists recognise, that our body's ability to reproduce itself perfectly, is flawed, and that it is becoming more, and more damaged, and that this is apparent as our body's reproductive ability/functions rapidly deteriorate.i

Devolution, in man, is also taking place in the psyche of man......

Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. good judgement or taste.

QUESTION;
Why is it a social 'crime' today, for people to 'discriminate', and for people to have and to express 'good judgement' ?

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #26 - Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 12:00am Quote: But the essential truth remains; That '100-Million-Year-Old insects', look exactly like the same insects we find today. Actually Yadda, what you think is the wasp is what a spider used to look like, and what you think is a spider is what a wasp used to look like
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26510 Australia	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #27 - Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 4:39am So yadda - are you telling me you believe in devolution? Where did you got mention that in the book? SOB
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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #28 - Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 9:10pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 12:00am:

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But the essential truth remains; That '100-Million-Year-Old insects', look exactly like the same insects we find today.

Actually Yadda, what you think is the wasp is what a spider used to look like, and what you think is a spider is what a wasp used to look like Shocked

LOL

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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #29 - Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 9:14pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2012 at 4:39am: are you telling me you believe in devolution? Scotland or Wales?
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