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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #150 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:18am

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:07pm:

Emma wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:01pm:

etc etc blah blab blah bla bah...
Spare us the rhetoric

Look, if you insist on being militantly stupid and ignorant, I am not going to stand in your way.

I see you ignored the "meat" of her post and just picked that bit. a bit selective dont you think? She was talking about how xtians arent the only ones that had scientists and how "they"most prolly just professed to believe to avoid being burned @ a stake.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #151 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:20am

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:39pm:

Emma wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:28pm:

You really don't believe in evolution do you?/

I mean... even in the context of animals, let alone human beings..?? You think we popped into being a mere few thousand yrs ago, by the hand of an almighty creator, all of the multitudinous forms of life , even now extant, all in one go.!! . So, obviously in that time frame evolution wouldn't have TIME to have any effect.!! Roll Eyes

The whole POINT of evolutionary theory, is that organisms, over long periods of time, change characteristics in order to better assimilate into the environment where they exist, so as to continue to survive, as a species.

That is nothing to do with religious thought. I think YOU are stupid, as is my right, and by evidence shown by your posts as proof of that view.

Perhaps, you might consider the idea that humans have evolved,... and , presumably with the ingrained tradition of the West, these ancient men of wisdom are no longer relevant , in particular, to today.??!! Could you? and of course

That would most definitely encompass the Bible, n'est ce pas??

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As I said, if you want to be militanly stupid, go ahead. And you have gone ahead.

You are emoting because you do not know anything else. You do not understand history, you do not understand science, you do not understand ideas. All you understand is your own resentments and fury and self-righteous rage.

Not an argument.

Again you didnt address any of her points just lashed out.

She explained evolution to you. Guess you skipped that bit - didnt fit with what you want to believe?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26510 Australia	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #152 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:22am Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54pm: If we evolved in parallel with apes, how come we are so incredibly different from them, even as we share most our our DNA? Why are lil yappy dogs nothing like alsatians? Evolving parallel doesnt mean evolving the same. SOB
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26510 Australia	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #153 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:23am Emma wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:09pm: anyone else want to explain it to soren?? Please ?? I tried a lil but he wont listen to me - thats a given. SOB
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #154 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:43am 'they' don't listen, as a rule.. wouldn't want to let in a little bit of doubt to disturb their blind faith, guess the world is just too scary for them on their little old lonesome!
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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #155 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:55am

But
I do have to say SOB - your attempt .. at explaining why humans and apes are so diff, despite very close DNA, was not a good comparison.

Dogs are not an example of this sort of divergence. Funnily enough, it has been HUMAN intervention which has produced the range of form dogs now display, in all their variety,. and it has more to do with selective breeding , not evolution.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #156 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 6:39am

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54pm:

If we evolved in parallel with apes, how come we are so incredibly different from them, even as we share most our our DNA?

We did not evolve in parallel with apes. We ARE apes. Or more specifically, a sub-species of chimpanzee. That is why we are incredibly similar to the other 2 chimpanzee species, Pan paniscus and Pan trogolodytes.

We are part of the Hominidae family of Great Apes, which contains gorillas and chimpanzees (including humans)

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #157 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 6:58am

Emma wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:55am:

But
I do have to say SOB - your attempt .. at explaining why humans and apes are so diff, despite very close DNA, was not a good comparison.

Dogs are not an example of this sort of divergence. Funnily enough, it has been HUMAN intervention which has produced the range of form dogs now display, in all their variety,. and it has more to do with selective breeding , not evolution.

I guess you are right since dogs are the same species and we arnt same species as apes. I was just trying to make it overly simple for him.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #158 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 7:58am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Emma wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:55am:

But
I do have to say SOB - your attempt .. at explaining why humans and apes are so diff, despite very close DNA, was not a good comparison.

Dogs are not an example of this sort of divergence. Funnily enough, it has been HUMAN intervention which has produced the range of form dogs now display, in all their variety,. and it has more to do with selective breeding , not evolution.

I guess you are right since dogs are the same species and we arnt same species as apes. I was just trying to make it overly simple for him.

SOB

"Apes" are not a species. "Ape" is the general term referring to the family Hominoidea, which we are a member of along with gibbons, orang-utan, gorillas and chimpanzees

Homo sapiens
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

As apes though - we resemble chimpanzees more than anything, and should really be considered a species of chimpanzee. Creating the genus Homo to describe ourselves doesn't really make much sense. Our species should really be Pan sapiens.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #159 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:42am

Yadda wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:38pm:

Emma wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Because, the claim is that apes evolved into humans [i.e. ourselves], over a much shorter time span, than 100-Million-Years.

_ YADDA

Hee hee ... that is funny Yada... guess you don't keep up with archaeological and forensic anthropology.. !! Grin

......Has since been shown that human and ape species share a common 'ancestral trunk' ..but that a divergence occurred and branched off the main trunk, ... so in fact, we evolved along parallel tracks , towards different paths from then.

Fossils are 'millions of years old'

Hee hee ... that is funny Emma

Does anyone want to address these evidences [links above] ?

Too hard, for all of you upright, rational, 'scientific process' enveloped bods ?

How about 70-MILLION-YEAR-OLD T-REX SOFT TISSUE being found ? [there are even pretty images to look at, if it is too difficult for you to engage the logic processing centre of you brains.]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1242797856/89#89

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And if the geologic layers are evidence of aeons of time passing between each geologic layer, how come upright petrified trees have been found [all over the world], which intersect the 'geologic layers' which are supposedly separated by millions of years of time ?

Isn't it obvious [most logical] that in those locations, some cataclysmic event has obviously occurred, burying those upright trees in sedimentary layers ?

What other explanation would you like to propose, for those upright petrified trees intersecting the geologic layers, representing 'millions of years' of geologic time ???

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1317865021/43#43

Google;

geologic layers upright petrified trees

Yadda wrote on May 28^th, 2009 at 4:01pm:

Amadd wrote on May 28^th, 2009 at 3:48pm:

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i.e. Why can't this fossil be, say, 4 thousand years old???

Hmmmmm????

4,000 years!!! I doubt if it's even possible to get a fossil that young.

Amadd,

You are mistaken.

After being taught at school that it takes millions of years for fossils to form, you, and many others have made fallacious assumptions about the 'age of dinosaurs'.

N.B.
Under the right environmental circumstances, dead organic material can 'fossilise' [petrify] in under 20 years.

That is proven FACT.

i.e. It has been proven [observed to happen], SCIENTIFICALLY.

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.....it has been proven, that petrification of organic material can take place, in less than 20 years.
http://hissheep.org/evolution/proof_of_rapid_petrification.html
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5179/

Google,
rapid petrification
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=rapid+petrification&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Think of the consequences of this *fact*, on our understanding of the age of [dinosaur] fossils.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #161 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 10:07am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 7:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Emma wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:55am:

But
I do have to say SOB - your attempt .. at explaining why humans and apes are so diff, despite very close DNA, was not a good comparison.

Dogs are not an example of this sort of divergence. Funnily enough, it has been HUMAN intervention which has produced the range of form dogs now display, in all their variety,. and it has more to do with selective breeding , not evolution.

I guess you are right since dogs are the same species and we arnt same species as apes. I was just trying to make it overly simple for him.

SOB

"Apes" are not a species. "Ape" is the general term referring to the family Hominoidea, which we are a member of along with gibbons, orang-utan, gorillas and chimpanzees

Homo sapiens
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

As apes though - we resemble chimpanzees more than anything, and should really be considered a species of chimpanzee. Creating the genus Homo to describe ourselves doesn't really make much sense. Our species should really be Pan sapiens.

I am not interested in your semantics. You knew what i meant and you are just trying to pick a fight going on about the semantic stuff. Beats me why since we should be on the same side on this issue.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26510 Australia	Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax Reply #162 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 10:10am Im not following 20 links - you want to make a point you make your point then use the links to back yourself up not use them instead of an argument. I take it you think god did it with the rib and snake like soren? SOB
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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #163 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 11:05am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 7:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 6:58am:

Emma wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 4:55am:

But
I do have to say SOB - your attempt .. at explaining why humans and apes are so diff, despite very close DNA, was not a good comparison.

Dogs are not an example of this sort of divergence. Funnily enough, it has been HUMAN intervention which has produced the range of form dogs now display, in all their variety,. and it has more to do with selective breeding , not evolution.

I guess you are right since dogs are the same species and we arnt same species as apes. I was just trying to make it overly simple for him.

SOB

"Apes" are not a species. "Ape" is the general term referring to the family Hominoidea, which we are a member of along with gibbons, orang-utan, gorillas and chimpanzees

Homo sapiens
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

As apes though - we resemble chimpanzees more than anything, and should really be considered a species of chimpanzee. Creating the genus Homo to describe ourselves doesn't really make much sense. Our species should really be Pan sapiens.

I am not interested in your semantics. You knew what i meant and you are just trying to pick a fight going on about the semantic stuff. Beats me why since we should be on the same side on this issue.

SOB

The joys of learning is when you have a debate with people who have different opinions. If they are an educated and intelligent person who has thought deeply about the subject, then you can have respect for their knowledge and have an enlightening conversation. In those situations it is not about taking sides, but the process of increasing ones understanding.

Some people though are just idiots. And even when you agree with their opinion, you can still see what a dumbshit they are. In other words it is easier to respect a knowledgeable person with a different opinion, than it is to respect someone you agree with if they happen to be a moron like you.

Read this thread and you will see that it is not just the people who disagree with you who think that you're a spastic, but even those on "the same side" who wish to distance themselves from you. Your very presence lowers the intelligence of this thread.

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There was nothing at all in his post that resembles fight picking. He simply added information to the discussion and politely corrected your mistake. Stop being such an over-sensitive pussy always having a fit when someone corrects you. Between you and Rabbitoh07, it is only you starting a fight.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #164 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 11:19am

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 4:57pm:

Back when they were much more in touch with themselves and the natural world. Thank bugger we're so much smarter now eh?

We are certainly far more capable. People were more in touch with the natural world and themselves because you had to be to survive.

I agree that people are not mentally geared that well for the world we have created.

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