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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #510 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:41pm

Soren wrote on Oct 6^th, 2013 at 1:34am:

muso wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

The brain is the underlying medium to all that.
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What is interesting about us is the leftover when all the biology and chemistry has been said and done. This is not to say that there is no biology or chemistry relevant to explaining humanity. But the explanations thus provided are relatively trivial and limited. Freedom, potentiality, is not a brain activity.

Of course they are trivial and limited. That's because neurosurgery is in its infancy. However, enough is known to be able to cure some serious personality defects.

Yes, yes, yes. And Cathy Freeman's victory at the Olympics was really all about the underlying muscle structure, heart-lung function and so forth.

We were all cheering her underlying medium, not her.

Cathy Freeman? Going back a bit there. Winning at the Olympics is all about brain power and attitude. Of course there is a fair bit of balance and poise - and science.

Brain Waves

What would the Australian Institute for Sport know, anyway?

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Reply #511 - May 19^th, 2014 at 9:08am

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

The brain is not identical to the mind or personality or soul or character. The most important aspects of our 'inner lives', are only trivially brain activities.

Those are descriptions of concepts. They are related to brain activity in an important way, and that is without said activity they wouldn't exist.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

The great variety of human experience exceeds our the biological, biochemical variations. These variations among apes, for example, would be nearly identical to the variations among humans but the scale and range of experience we have is colossal compared to even the most travelled and cosmopolitan apes.

I'm not even sure what you are saying here? The humans have more experiences? We have more because we have more complex thinking.

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

Nothing is "left over". Freedom and potentiality are perfectly explainable things using physical systems.

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Re: Evidence of Evolution being a hoax
Reply #513 - May 19^th, 2014 at 11:45am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 19^th, 2014 at 11:33am:

It's debatable that the concept of freedom (and many other concepts) can be explain via a physical/materialist philosophy. Ideas aren't material or physical entities. We only see/feel/hear the effects or repercussions of such ideas when they are implemented in actual physical activities.

No, they are not physical, they are abstractions. That does not mean they are not built on underlying physical realities though.

Someone forms and idea. This may come via introspection or from an external stimuli. The result is the same, interactions in the brain cause conscious thought. This thought, or set of thoughts can then be shared via language and idea is born. It changes and propagates via our social connections. We create an abstraction, called an idea to describe the process.

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