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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #15 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

What particular policies/ideals do you see as "ultra' conservative?

Annexing OZ to keep brown boat people away?

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #16 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:40am

FriYAY wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

What particular policies/ideals do you see as "ultra' conservative?

Annexing OZ to keep brown boat people away?

Yep and labor should hang their heads in shame for following the Howard and tony ideals. But also the lack of initiative on climate change, broadband, and just the general nonsense that all social and economic policies are about keeping what is now and "reducing tax". Apparently everything can be solved by simply keeping to what is now, as opposed to actually implementing improvements.

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Reply #17 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:47am

The conga line of xenophobic dicks try to make out it is normal practice for this country to normalise discrimination against boat people ,but we know this obscene practice did not begin until that filth known as the lying little rodent introduces it. Up until then both major parties accepted refugees in the manner in which it is expected of us after Menzies signed the 1952 convention on refugees.

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #18 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:55am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

What particular policies/ideals do you see as "ultra' conservative?

Annexing OZ to keep brown boat people away?

Yep and labor should hang their heads in shame for following the Howard and tony ideals. But also the lack of initiative on climate change, broadband, and just the general nonsense that all social and economic policies are about keeping what is now and "reducing tax". Apparently everything can be solved by simply keeping to what is now, as opposed to actually implementing improvements.

Personal Responsibility also was a pillar of the party of Menzies, now under Abbott its give me a handout.

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #19 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:56am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:55am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

What particular policies/ideals do you see as "ultra' conservative?

Annexing OZ to keep brown boat people away?

Yep and labor should hang their heads in shame for following the Howard and tony ideals. But also the lack of initiative on climate change, broadband, and just the general nonsense that all social and economic policies are about keeping what is now and "reducing tax". Apparently everything can be solved by simply keeping to what is now, as opposed to actually implementing improvements.

Personal Responsibility also was a pillar of the party of Menzies, now under Abbott its give me a handout.

Yep, we've got conservative socialism - "I'll pay tax as long as you give me a handout in return." Last I checked it wasn't meant to work that way.

Just the fact that people could go crazy and have a c-section to try and grab the baby bonus shows how bad the handout ideology has become. Instead of people wanting that money spent on furthering education for their kids in the long term, they want it in the short term for what?

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #20 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #21 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #22 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #23 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:09pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

Perhaps you can provide examples of how having a Liberal Leader, sticking to the founding principals of the party he is leading will push people further to the right?

And if these principals have become so obnoxious, why hasn't the National Party(the traditional conservative party) dissolved its alliance & become a party in its own right?

I mean it would stand to reason, the party of business & the conservative party never got enough votes on their own to defeat the party of the workers, so combined.
Now your saying there are more conservatives then just about anything so why do the Nationals remain the Liberals "Little Bitch"?

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #24 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

So if Gillard says the skies blue, Abbott must argue it's green?
Perhaps he was indistinguishable because they were decent policies?

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:17pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

So if Gillard says the skies blue, Abbott must argue it's green?
Perhaps he was indistinguishable because they were decent policies?

Why would Gillard say the sky is blue - she won't even admit her hair is red

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #26 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:19pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 11:47am:

The conga line of xenophobic dicks try to make out it is normal practice for this country to normalise discrimination against boat people ,but we know this obscene practice did not begin until that filth known as the lying little rodent introduces it. Up until then both major parties accepted refugees in the manner in which it is expected of us after Menzies signed the 1952 convention on refugees.

It would do the conga line of morons well to realise this isn’t 1954.

If you think the refugee problem now is the same as 1954, then your head would be so far up your arse you would turn in side out.

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #27 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

he is a self made millionaire..he knows all about saying the right thing at the right time..

very canny if you like that type of thing. he really is another rudd ... likes doing things his way and everyone else can go scratch themselves..

do we really want that all over again????? Sad

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

So if Gillard says the skies blue, Abbott must argue it's green?
Perhaps he was indistinguishable because they were decent policies?

after

THERE WILL BE KNOW CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..

I too would take a look if she said the sky is blue..

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Re: Galaxy poll - Labor would lose 20+ seats
Reply #29 - Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:27pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Shane B wrote on Nov 5^th, 2012 at 10:55am:

Liberals with Turnbull as leader would see Australia having no major conservative political party at the Federal level.

That's a bad thing how? And not entirely true. Turnbull as leader would mean a conservative centrist party. Abbott as leader means "as ultra as one can get in Australia" conservative party.

If Turnball becomes opposition leader it will push many people further to the right.
Turnball may be pro-business, but he's not a social conservative at all.

Perhaps provide examples with that?

I've seen him on QandA a number of times, and he was indistinguishable from the left of the Labor party.

So if Gillard says the skies blue, Abbott must argue it's green?
Perhaps he was indistinguishable because they were decent policies?

Why would Gillard say the sky is blue - she won't even admit her hair is red

Why would she, its not
Remember how you pointed this fact out from Tanners book to accuse her of more falsehoods.

To be a good liar/Fanboy Maqqa, you must have a good memory Wink

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