In light of this quality, quality thread, I thought it was an opportune moment to review the standing forum rules, one of which states:

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wow. I'm speechless.

Does yadda have some special pass or something?

Y, you believe Muslims are lying about their beliefs and their faith. Can I ask what you’re basing this on? Why would they do this?

Questioning your views does not make me a Muslim. You’re saying a quarter of the world’s population are seeking a violent war with everyone else, and again, the one’s I’ve met have been nice, ordinary people who say they want no part in a war.

Who should I believe? You or them?

Before you tell me that you don’t care what a piece of filth thinks, remember that you spend your time on this board SOLELY to get people to change their beliefs about Islam.

I’m happy to be persuaded either way - I have no great stake in this issue. So tell me - where do you get your facts?

And David Koresh? Jim Jones? The unibomber? The shoe bomber?

These are nutters. Dangerous nutters. Islam’s got a few, I’ll give you that.

What’s so dumb about them is how easily entrapped they are into betraying themselves. And yes, what is also interesting is how many talk tough and do nothing.

If every Muslim believed what your nutters believe, I’d agree. Don’t let them in. But they don’t. Surely you know that. Surely you’ve bought a kebab from a harmless Turk or two. Just because someone’s a Moslem doesn’t mean they believe what you’ve posted. If you think everyone’s as dangerous as that, it must be impossible for you to leave your house.

Y, you really need to get out more and smell the roses. Life is not so bad. People of all persuasions can be really quite nice.

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 10:14pm:






K,

Once again, a moslem, is a moslem, because he subscribes to the philosophy called ISLAM.

ISLAM mandates never-ending warfare against those who are not moslems.

That is what ISLAM is.

ISLAM is a philosophy which inculcates a desire to perpetrate murder, and terrorism, into men's brains.



ISLAM is a disease which infects the human psyche.

ISLAM is a cancer.

Its cadres enter new nations, and establish themselves, spreading their 'values' within the host culture.

A cancer does not kill its host in one day.

Cancer slowly grows, within the host, destroying the hosts ability to throw off dis-ease.

Then one day, the cancer overwhelms the weakened body.

And the body dies.

And what is left ?

e.g.
Taliban, Afghanistan.

Sudan.

Somalia.

A Saudi Arabia [....without oil revenues.]

A Turkey, without a secular society.

An Egypt, with an 'Arab spring'.

And on, and on.

mutation wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 10:40pm:


Just one? Malaysia. It’s just up the road from Australia. I’d name Indonesia too, but some Islands aren’t as nice as Bali, 

The beheadings and acid throwing happen in Middle Eastern and Central Asian countries.

The world’s a big place. Sadly, it’s usually the people who are small.

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:


In August 2009, a state court sentenced a Muslim woman to six strokes of the cane after she was caught drinking beer in a hotel in the Malaysian state of Pahang.[11]

In March 2009, Malaysian religious authorities threatened to sue the Malaysian Bar, which represents 12,000 of the country’s lawyers, for using the word “Allah” on the Bar's website.[12]

In November 2008, the Malaysian National Fatwa Council told Muslims to refrain from doing yoga because is it blasphemous. The condemnation of yoga followed upon the Council's condemnation of females who wear trousers. The Council said that girls who wear trousers are at risk of becoming sexually-active tomboys.[13]

In 2008, religious authorities were seeking Ayah Pin, the leader of a banned, nonviolent religious group known as the Sky Kingdom, and one of his four wives for supporting "deviant" religious practices. On 3 March 2008, a Sharia Court sentenced Kamariah Ali, 57, who converted from Islam to the banned group, to two years imprisonment for apostasy.[4]

On February 12, 2008, the Internal Security Ministry issued a directive to the Catholic Church to stop using the word "Allah" in its weekly publication, the Catholic Herald.[4] On 16 February 2009, the Ministry revised its directive to permit the word "Allah" in Christian publications if each publication bore a notice which indicated the publication was not for Muslims. [14][15]

In January 2008, officials from the Ministry of Internal Security seized Christian children's books from several bookshops. The books contained drawings representing Moses and Noah. The officials deemed the drawings "caricatures of prophets," and said the drawings were offensive to Muslim sensibilities. The Malaysian Council of Churches accused ministry officials of overstepping their authority by confiscating literature that was not meant for Muslims. The Ministry returned the books.[4]

In August 2007, the government of Malaysia suspended for one month the operations of a daily Makkal Osai (in the Tamil language) for violating the Printing Presses and Publications Act 1984. On 21  August 2007, the daily had published a caricature of Jesus Christ clutching a cigarette and a can of beer.[2]

On 23 January 2006, the National Fatwa Council, Malaysia's highest Islamic authority, banned Muslims from taking part in the activities associated with Black Metal music. Datuk Mustafa Abdul Rahman, the director-general of the Islamic Development Department, told a press conference on 27 January 2006, that Black Metal often led its followers to worship Satan, rebel, kill, and incite hatred. Nevertheless, the government favored counseling rather than a ban upon the musical genre.[16]

On or about 23 May 2002, a French missionary was arrested on blasphemy charges after distributing a pamphlet about Quranic plagiary. Though he could have been sentenced to two to five years in jail for "acting in a manner which could lead to disharmony between Christians and Muslims," a judge ordered that he be deported.[10]

In 2000, the Sharia High Court in the state of Kelantan sentenced four persons to three years in prison for disregarding a lower court's order to recant their deviant beliefs and "return to the true teachings of Islam." The High Court rejected the argument that Sharia has no jurisdiction over people who have ceased to be Muslims. In dismissing the appeal, the Court of Appeal ruled (in August 2002) that only the Sharia court has jurisdiction to determine whether a person has ceased to be a Muslim.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Malaysia#Selected_cases


Noice. It may seem all the same to you as the West - but then you don't know a kloaka from a punana,  so you are no authority on différance, are you, PB?

An ideologue? Now that really is going too far. Moderators, ban this man.

Here I was thinking you were going to present evidence of a Muslim state persecuting non-Muslim minorities.

But no. You and the old boy have provided examples of Muslims prosecuting the state - and each other. Yes, and there is an example of a mob burning down a church.

I wonder if they were investigated and prosecuted. Given the Indians run the Malaysian legal system, you would think the church could at least sue for damages. They certainly made the religious police return the Christian schoolbooks.

You goons have gone and provided evidence of a Malaysian rule of law. One always slips up with cut and paste jobs. And a list of headlines? Yadda, even for you, that’s plain ridiculous.

Yadda calling me an idealogue. Yes, friends, you heard it here first.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:45pm:



Yadda must really dislike Ikea. Common ground at last.