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Re: This is another wonderful day for ISLAMISTS and fo
Reply #75 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 8:56am

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53am:

So if Muslims started the Cronulla riots, why did the rioters attack any old Indian, Greek and Christian Leb ?

Coz the rioters were responding, as ignorant gits.

Coz the rioters were responding just as moslems would [and do!], within moslem jurisdictions, against anyone who challenges moslem authority, within those jurisdictions.

Were the Cronulla rioters justified ?

Possibly.
i.e.
the public were [and had been] provoked imo, by the intolerable conduct of many young moslem men,
AND,
by the failure of the moslem community to censure and control their own [n.b. BECAUSE YOUNG MOSLEM MEN ARE ACTUALLY SANCTIONED BY ISLAM, TO 'WORRY' THE LOCAL KUFFAR],
AND,
by the craven intransigence of the police to deal with these moslem lawbreakers [disturbers of the peace].

imo,
The cause of the problem was LAWLESSNESS on the part of young moslem men.

And, imo, ISLAM encourages an attitude of LAWLESSNESS on the part of young moslem men, who live in non-moslem jurisdictions.

The cause of the problem [the Cronulla riots], was AGGRAVATED by the previous reluctance of the Australian, NSW police, to act against moslem lawbreakers [....coz the police are fearful in this PC political climate, that if they simply charged or cautioned moslems, they, individual police officers, would be accused of being 'racists'].

ISLAM has a 'wonderful' method of paralysing any societal resistance to the societal intimidation and violence, by moslems.

If non-moslems resist or try to censure [i.e. criticise] moslem societal intimidation and violence, ISLAMISTS respond by calling those who merely make complaints about moslem societal intimidation and violence, racists.

And that mere accusation, is a 'knock-out-blow', in the PC political society we live in today.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: This is another wonderful day for ISLAMISTS and fo
Reply #76 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 9:32am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 8:01am:

yes fault on both sides isinit Wink

bogans must be kept away from mulims isinit Wink

build a wall thru maroubra isinit Wink

Moslems cannot live PEACEFULLY within any society where freedom [i.e. self-responsibility] prevails.

IT IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

ISLAM and freedom are incompatible.

Q.
Why so ?

A.
What every non-moslem needs to understand about ISLAMIC culture and moslem behaviour is;

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

e.g.
Murdering your own [rebellious] children is permitted, by Sharia law.
Raping non-moslem women is not unlawful, by Sharia law.
Killing non-moslems is not unlawful, by Sharia law.
Stealing the property of non-moslems is not unlawful, by Sharia law. [Allah has declared in teh Koran, that the whole earth belongs to moslems. Moslems merely have to take it, and all that it contains.]

BUT;
A moslem MAY NOT kill a fellow believer, by Sharia law.
A moslem MAY NOT have sex with the wife of a fellow believer, by Sharia law.
A moslem MAY NOT steal the property a fellow believer, by Sharia law.
A moslem MUST obey the law and tenets of ISLAM.

Again;

To a moslem, all things are permissible, if they are permitted by Sharia law.

Q.
Do we [i.e. Australians] want to co-habit, in a society, with persons who believe such things ?

Q.
How can there EVER be a peaceful co-existence in a society, between persons who believe such things and non-moslems ???

TO UNDERSTAND ISLAM, IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT OF ISLAMIC 'LAW';

n.b.
All non-moslems are relegated by Sharia, to having the status of cattle.
i.e.
Non-moslem may live, while they are useful to moslems.

BUT, it is NOT unlawful, for a moslem TO KILL, or, TO STEAL FROM, any non-moslem.

i
"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.......[and it is the 'unbelievers' who] are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

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Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-muslim, WHO DOES NOT LIVE UNDER MUSLIM RULE.
".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi

In the eyes of moslems, everyone who rejects ISLAM's authority, and everyone who rejects the right of moslems to rule politically in every society, is a 'harbi'.

In the eyes of moslems, everyone who rejects ISLAM is 'deserves' to die.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: This is another wonderful day for ISLAMISTS and fo
Reply #77 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 10:22am

Yadda wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 9:32am:

TO UNDERSTAND ISLAM, IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT OF ISLAMIC 'LAW';

n.b.
All non-moslems are relegated by Sharia law, to having the status of cattle.
i.e.
Non-moslems may live, while they are useful to moslems.

BUT, it is NOT unlawful, for a moslem TO KILL, or, TO STEAL FROM, any non-moslem.

Under Sharia law.....

If a non-moslem kills a moslem, the non-moslem MUST die.

But if a moslem kills a non-moslem, the moslem MUST NOT die.

"....I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.083.050

"....I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.283

Why is this so ???

This is because 'disbelievers' have no 'automatic' protection, in ISLAMIC law.

as per....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

Because they are, disbelievers, all disbelievers are essentially 'outlaws', and may be 'lawfully' treated with disdain and enmity ['lawful' hated], by all moslems.

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HOW DOES MAINSTREAM ISLAM, AND HOW DO MAINSTREAM MOSLEMS, 'CHARACTERISE' THE 'STATUS' OF NON-MOSLEMS ?

E.G. HOW DO MOSLEMS REGARD PEOPLE LIKE 'MAINSTREAM' AUSTRALIANS ?

EXAMPLE #1,
Anjem Choudary is a moslem community leader in the UK....

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

EXAMPLE #2,
Another UK moslem community leader speaking >> BEFORE << the London 7/7 Bus and Subway bombings....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: This is another wonderful day for ISLAMISTS and fo
Reply #78 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 1:41pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53am:

So if Muslims started the Cronulla riots, why did the rioters attack any old Indian, Greek and Christian Leb ?

There you go. No one's better than anyone else. We're just as bad as them.

Sarc off.

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