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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #495 - Nov 20^th, 2012 at 6:34pm

ELECTION 2013 - HUGE SUPPORT FOR OPERATION PILLAR OF DEFENSE, NOT FOR GROUND INVASION

Israelis expressed strong backing for Operation Pillar of Defense’s attacks by air but hesitancy to add a ground offensive, according to polls taken in recent days.

The polls were taken amid questions over whether thousands of IDF reservists who were called up would be used for ground operations or whether Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak were bluffing when they threatened to enter the Gaza Strip.

A poll taken by Panels for the Israeli Center for Political Training found that 85 percent of Israelis believe embarking on the operation was the correct decision. But when asked what should happen next, 45% said to continue air strikes, 22% said to seek a cease-fire and just 25% recommended a ground offensive.

A Dialog poll taken for Haaretz had similar results, with 84% supporting the operation, 39% saying it should be continued by air, 19% calling for an immediate cease-fire and 30% backing a ground operation.

A Midgam poll taken for Channel 10 on Thursday, the first full day of the operation, found that 91% of Israelis supported it. Seventy-six percent called for it to continue and 22% said to seek a cease-fire.

Netanyahu and Barak fared well in all of the polls, which showed that an overwhelming majority of Israelis do not believe they began the operation for political reasons.

Asked whether they were satisfied with Netanyahu’s performance running the operation, 78% answered affirmatively in the Panels poll and 55% in the Dialog one. Barak’s approval was 70% and 52% in the Panels and Dialog surveys respectively.

In response to Midgam’s question on who is fit to handle Israel’s security challenges, 41% said Netanyahu, 18% Barak, 7% former prime minister Ehud Olmert, 6% Kadima chairman Shaul Mofaz, 4% Labor leader Shelly Yacimovich, 3% former foreign minister Tzipi Livni and 2% Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid.

When asked by Dialog whether Barak should remain defense minister, 42% answered affirmatively and 41% said no. When Panels asked who was most fit to be defense minister, former IDF chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. (res.) Gabi Ashkenazi, who is barred from holding the post during his current cooling-off period finished first, followed by Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon, and Barak.

Both the Dialog and Panels polls found that the Center-Right bloc would win 66 seats, the Center- Left bloc 50-51 mandates, and renegade Shas MK Haim Amsalem’s new Am Shalem party three to four seats. Netanyahu and Liberman’s Likud- Beytenu joint list would win 41 seats in the Dialog survey and 38 in the Panels poll, in which National Union MK Arieh Eldad’s newly created Strength for Israel party passes the 2% electoral threshold with three seats.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=292597

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #496 - Nov 20^th, 2012 at 6:48pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 6:34pm:

ELECTION 2013 - HUGE SUPPORT FOR OPERATION PILLAR OF DEFENSE, NOT FOR GROUND INVASION

Israelis expressed strong backing for Operation Pillar of Defense’s attacks by air but hesitancy to add a ground offensive, according to polls taken in recent days.

The polls were taken amid questions over whether thousands of IDF reservists who were called up would be used for ground operations or whether Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak were bluffing when they threatened to enter the Gaza Strip.

A poll taken by Panels for the Israeli Center for Political Training found that 85 percent of Israelis believe embarking on the operation was the correct decision. But when asked what should happen next, 45% said to continue air strikes, 22% said to seek a cease-fire and just 25% recommended a ground offensive.

A Dialog poll taken for Haaretz had similar results, with 84% supporting the operation, 39% saying it should be continued by air, 19% calling for an immediate cease-fire and 30% backing a ground operation.

A Midgam poll taken for Channel 10 on Thursday, the first full day of the operation, found that 91% of Israelis supported it. Seventy-six percent called for it to continue and 22% said to seek a cease-fire.

Netanyahu and Barak fared well in all of the polls, which showed that an overwhelming majority of Israelis do not believe they began the operation for political reasons.

Asked whether they were satisfied with Netanyahu’s performance running the operation, 78% answered affirmatively in the Panels poll and 55% in the Dialog one. Barak’s approval was 70% and 52% in the Panels and Dialog surveys respectively.

In response to Midgam’s question on who is fit to handle Israel’s security challenges, 41% said Netanyahu, 18% Barak, 7% former prime minister Ehud Olmert, 6% Kadima chairman Shaul Mofaz, 4% Labor leader Shelly Yacimovich, 3% former foreign minister Tzipi Livni and 2% Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid.

When asked by Dialog whether Barak should remain defense minister, 42% answered affirmatively and 41% said no. When Panels asked who was most fit to be defense minister, former IDF chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. (res.) Gabi Ashkenazi, who is barred from holding the post during his current cooling-off period finished first, followed by Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon, and Barak.

Both the Dialog and Panels polls found that the Center-Right bloc would win 66 seats, the Center- Left bloc 50-51 mandates, and renegade Shas MK Haim Amsalem’s new Am Shalem party three to four seats. Netanyahu and Liberman’s Likud- Beytenu joint list would win 41 seats in the Dialog survey and 38 in the Panels poll, in which National Union MK Arieh Eldad’s newly created Strength for Israel party passes the 2% electoral threshold with three seats.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=292597

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Go back the the Middle East if its so important to you.

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #497 - Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:33pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

That 40 year story sounds familiar - isnt it out of one of the fairy tale books? So basically not actually history.

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No shock in that post. Considering it is coming from the same fool that doesn't believe Herod the Great was a real person because he is mentioned in the Bible, why would anyone be surprised. Let me bet, you don't believe in the Egyptians, the Persians, the Babylonians or even the Romans ay spot. After all, they are in the silly "fairytale" book so they must be false...

Link to where i said anything of the sort.

SOB

Ok

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:11am:

Adamant wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Did you know that in the days of Herod, Israel was larger than it is today.

Herod? are you saying that because a fiction book says something it must be history?

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #498 - Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:46pm

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

That 40 year story sounds familiar - isnt it out of one of the fairy tale books? So basically not actually history.

SOB

No shock in that post. Considering it is coming from the same fool that doesn't believe Herod the Great was a real person because he is mentioned in the Bible, why would anyone be surprised. Let me bet, you don't believe in the Egyptians, the Persians, the Babylonians or even the Romans ay spot. After all, they are in the silly "fairytale" book so they must be false...

Link to where i said anything of the sort.

SOB

Ok

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:11am:

Adamant wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Did you know that in the days of Herod, Israel was larger than it is today.

Herod? are you saying that because a fiction book says something it must be history?

SOB

Spot will claim you doctored his post.

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #499 - Nov 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm

Dr No wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:

Spot will claim you doctored his post.

Yes, there is no way to get anything through to him.

If I don't show the quote he says; "hahahahaha you got caught lying you lying liar." If I quote in full he will just say; "what? What has what you quoted got to do with what you caused me of? You're lying again." If I spell it out for him by quoting the exact sentence in question; "you're quote mining and misrepresenting what I said you liar."

Yes, he will find a reason to deny anything that shows what a moron he is.

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #500 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:39am

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

That 40 year story sounds familiar - isnt it out of one of the fairy tale books? So basically not actually history.

SOB

No shock in that post. Considering it is coming from the same fool that doesn't believe Herod the Great was a real person because he is mentioned in the Bible, why would anyone be surprised. Let me bet, you don't believe in the Egyptians, the Persians, the Babylonians or even the Romans ay spot. After all, they are in the silly "fairytale" book so they must be false...

Link to where i said anything of the sort.

SOB

Ok

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:11am:

Adamant wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Did you know that in the days of Herod, Israel was larger than it is today.

Herod? are you saying that because a fiction book says something it must be history?

SOB

Where did I say he wasnt a real person? The context of it was airy fairy.

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #501 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:40am

Dr No wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

That 40 year story sounds familiar - isnt it out of one of the fairy tale books? So basically not actually history.

SOB

No shock in that post. Considering it is coming from the same fool that doesn't believe Herod the Great was a real person because he is mentioned in the Bible, why would anyone be surprised. Let me bet, you don't believe in the Egyptians, the Persians, the Babylonians or even the Romans ay spot. After all, they are in the silly "fairytale" book so they must be false...

Link to where i said anything of the sort.

SOB

Ok

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:11am:

Adamant wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Did you know that in the days of Herod, Israel was larger than it is today.

Herod? are you saying that because a fiction book says something it must be history?

SOB

Spot will claim you doctored his post.

What? What kind of lying scum are you?

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #502 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:41am

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

Dr No wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:

Spot will claim you doctored his post.

Yes, there is no way to get anything through to him.

If I don't show the quote he says; "hahahahaha you got caught lying you lying liar." If I quote in full he will just say; "what? What has what you quoted got to do with what you caused me of? You're lying again." If I spell it out for him by quoting the exact sentence in question; "you're quote mining and misrepresenting what I said you liar."

Yes, he will find a reason to deny anything that shows what a moron he is.

You really cant handle it that most ppl are smarter than you can you. In real life to you try to bully ppl? I expect most ppl in real life are smarter than you too so you must have to lash out . . . .

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #503 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 6:50am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:41am:

Quantum wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

Dr No wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:

Spot will claim you doctored his post.

Yes, there is no way to get anything through to him.

If I don't show the quote he says; "hahahahaha you got caught lying you lying liar." If I quote in full he will just say; "what? What has what you quoted got to do with what you caused me of? You're lying again." If I spell it out for him by quoting the exact sentence in question; "you're quote mining and misrepresenting what I said you liar."

Yes, he will find a reason to deny anything that shows what a moron he is.

You really cant handle it that most ppl are smarter than you can you. In real life to you try to bully ppl? I expect most ppl in real life are smarter than you too so you must have to lash out . . . .

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If they are, which I doubt, you certainly aren't on that list Spot.

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Reply #504 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 6:57am

Here is proof you aren't on the list Spot.

No. They arent. Some of the shows *may* give labour equal coverage occasionally but the main news etc are all biased just like the others in favour of abbott. They cut off labour ppl who are talking to the press to go to liberal ppl who are talking. When something happens they go find out what abbott thinks of it instead of the PM.

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Reply #505 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 7:54am

Dr No wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 6:57am:

Here is proof you aren't on the list Spot.

No. They arent. Some of the shows *may* give labour equal coverage occasionally but the main news etc are all biased just like the others in favour of abbott. They cut off labour ppl who are talking to the press to go to liberal ppl who are talking. When something happens they go find out what abbott thinks of it instead of the PM.

SOB

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I got an aussie spell checker. Not that it has anything to do with anything.

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Re: Gillard backs Israel
Reply #506 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:41am:

You really cant handle it that most ppl are smarter than you can you. In real life to you try to bully ppl? I expect most ppl in real life are smarter than you too so you must have to lash out . . . .

SOB

Actually when I find people who are smarter than me (and I am happy to admit that there are many) I usually try to learn from them. You should try it. Maybe start with prevailing's posts and work your way up. You will then be able to learn off the rest of us in a few decades.

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Reply #507 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:02am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 7:54am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 6:57am:

Here is proof you aren't on the list Spot.

No. They arent. Some of the shows *may* give labour equal coverage occasionally but the main news etc are all biased just like the others in favour of abbott. They cut off labour ppl who are talking to the press to go to liberal ppl who are talking. When something happens they go find out what abbott thinks of it instead of the PM.

SOB

I got

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Fixed.

I shouldn't have to do this as you claim to be smarter than me.

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Reply #508 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:13am

Dr No wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 7:54am:

Dr No wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 6:57am:

Here is proof you aren't on the list Spot.

No. They arent. Some of the shows *may* give labour equal coverage occasionally but the main news etc are all biased just like the others in favour of abbott. They cut off labour ppl who are talking to the press to go to liberal ppl who are talking. When something happens they go find out what abbott thinks of it instead of the PM.

SOB

I got

HAVE 

an aussie

Aussie

spell checker. Not that it has anything to do with anything.

SOB

Fixed.

I shouldn't have to do this as you claim to be smarter than me.

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Nope. I got an aussie spell checker. I had an american one and it was annoying and i had to correct it all the time. Now i have an aussie one (that i got).

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Gillard backs Israel Reply #509 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:56pm I am going home tomorrow for obvious reasons spot. I am not going to say anymore of the details. I have finished my studies and leave Sydney tomorrow. My main regret is I still have places I this country I have not visited. But I must go.
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