I was myself personally in Cast Lead and I tell you 100% you are wrong with your accusations.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:


There's the problem. If that is the attitude the solution can't be found.

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:


I cannot comment on the operation itself.
You are stating we slaughter civilians. We do not.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:



And your country is some sh1t hole in the Middle East.

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:


Yes I can because that is 100% against IDF Terms of Engagement.
Do you even know that to engage in enemy fire, unless in extreme circumstance, we must radio approval request to Tel Aviv?

Also destruction of structures must be authorised and approved.
There must be a specific military reason.

So yes you are wrong.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:




When moslems in Sudan murder 2 million Christians [because they are not moslems], and steal their women and children and property,  that is OK.



When moslems in Nigeria, murder Christians [because they are not moslems] that is OK.



When in Thailand, Philippines, Burma, Bangladesh, India, ....in all of these places moslems are the aggressors.








Right.






Abu,

It is strange [to me], how moslems reject reason, whenever facts do not support their moslem logic.

Israel is the Jewish homeland.

Israel is the >> ONLY << Jewish homeland.

Jerusalem has been associated with the Jewish people for millennia.

'Jerusalem, the City of David.'




There is no 'Palestine', 'Palestine' has never existed in the modern era.

The term 'Palestine' was invented post 1967, to describe the lands which Israel has laid claim to.

And moslems do not like the presence of that non-moslem entity in their midst.

Too bad.

Because;








If it was about 'land', there is plenty of moslem lands, deserts, around Israel,
WHERE NATION BUILDING NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN.

Go and do it.

Build the nation of ISLAM.

But you cannot.

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                RASCZAK
        Here in History and Moral Philosophy
        we've explored the decline of
        Democracy when social scientists brought
        the world to the brink of chaos, and how the   
        veterans took control and imposed a stability
        that has lasted for generations since...
        You know these facts but have I taught you
        anything of value ? You.
        Why are only citizens allowed to vote ?

    Rasczak points at LANNY, 17, with his stump
.
                LANNY
        It's a reward... what the Federation gives you
        for doing Federal Service.

    Rasczak is crestfallen, makes a big show of patience.

                RASCZAK
        No. Something given has no value !
        Haven't I taught you dimwits anything ?
        I guess they ought to revoke my
        teaching credential...

                RASCZAK
        When you vote, you're exercising political
        authority. You're using force. And force, my
        friends, is violence, the supreme authority
        from which all other authority derives.

    CARL JENKINS, 18, a superintelligent geek, jumps in.

                CARL
        Gee, we always thought you were the
        supreme authority, Mr. Rasczak.

    Laughter. Rasczak grins.

                RASCZAK
        In my classroom, you bet. Whether it's
        exerted by ten or ten billion, political
        authority is violence by degree. The
        people we call citizens have earned
        the right to wield it.

    DIZZY FLORES, 18, athletic, pretty, no nonsense, chimes in.

                DIZZY
        My mother always says that violence
        never solves anything.

                RASCZAK
        Really ? I wonder what the city fathers of
        Hiroshima would have to say about that.
        You.

    Rasczak points at Carmen.

                CARMEN
        They probably wouldn't say anything.
        Hiroshima was destroyed.

                RASCZAK
        Correct. Naked force has settled more
        issues in history than any other factor.
        The contrary opinion 'violence never
        solves anything' is wishful thinking
        at its worst.

                RASCZAK
        People who forget that always pay...
        They pay with their lives and their
        freedom.

From the movie Starship Troopers

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:08pm:

Irrelevant! This isnt about race!