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Re: Free sex and feminist marriage
Reply #15 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 4:12pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Oh please.

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feminist ideology .. has encouraged wives to expect husbands to wait patiently until the wife actually desires sex, with the result that marriage is a prolonged episode of sexual starvation for the husband.

What's the alternative to that? Waiting impatiently? Husbands forcing their unwilling wives?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106377 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Free sex and feminist marriage Reply #16 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 4:18pm The alternative for men is to be single - I mean - why be married & make one woman miserable - when you can be single & make many women happy?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Free sex and feminist marriage Reply #17 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 4:27pm Precisely what I've been banging on about for the last few years.
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Reply #18 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:01pm

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Bettina Arndt rape cheerleader" was one furious blog response. "F--- you, Bettina Arndt," was another. Eva Cox of the Women's Electoral Lobby launched a counterattack, claiming that it's men's own fault they aren't getting enough sex, because they don't do their fair share of housework.

"After an evening of organising kids, dinner, the shopping, the washing, the homework, etc, maybe [women] are too tired to want sex."

I found that on the days when I had done all of the housework , meal preperation and clean up look after the child etc.

It makes absolutly no difference - gaurantteed.

Though they do get annoyed when you stop.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59064 Here Gender:	Re: Free sex and feminist marriage Reply #19 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:03pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 4:18pm: The alternative for men is to be single - I mean - why be married & make one woman miserable - when you can be single & make many women happy? Because it is the best most stable and safest environment for your children, in the end that is what life is about.
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Reply #20 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:08pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Women are difficult to work out, I have known a number who were proud to tell you that sex isn't important to them.

Invariably these women eventually found that their partners were getting it elsewhere, funny how important it suddenly became.

Women that tell you they can't orgasm don't like you!

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Reply #21 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:19pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Oh please.

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feminist ideology .. has encouraged wives to expect husbands to wait patiently until the wife actually desires sex, with the result that marriage is a prolonged episode of sexual starvation for the husband.

What's the alternative to that? Waiting impatiently? Husbands forcing their unwilling wives?

no ...why is it one or the other? maybe the woman could just say yes ..... I agree to do crap for my wife, that I don't want to, all the time ... is it because I'm forced too? NO ..it's because I want to make her happy ...

I was watching Dr Phil one day, and they had an old couple ..been married 50 yrs ... when asked what was their secret the elderly lady said that she had never said no when he was in the mood and neither did he if she felt toey .... she was never forced ... never heard of a wife NEVER saying no before that one ... rare breed of woman

today's woman is so busy trying to be equal, she's forgotten that if her husband is in the mood and she says no , that leaves him with two alternatives , his hand or another woman... try as he might to resist the second, if it keeps happening the opportunity will one day come knocking and he will take it. Then the wife can whinge about what a bastard he was for cheating on her.

... and take half! Roll Eyes

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Re: Free sex and feminist marriage
Reply #22 - Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:36pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

[quote author=4C696E6859556B6F726E060 link=1353135189/11#11 date=1353150778][quote author=7F5045505D5854310 link=1353135189/3#3 date=1353136177]Oh please.

Why would anybody want to have sex with a partner who wasn't completely into it? I couldn't think of anything worse.

thats the whole point ... not so much that she want to have sex, but she should do it to please her husband .... I do things I don't necessarily feel like to please my wife ...

No. If there is a commitment to monogamy, then it should be honoured. It'd be far better to be open and leave the unsatisfactory partner than to betray the commitment, right?

now that's the feminist talking ... no guy makes a commitment to monogamy , most guys don't think like that ... they make a commitment to their wife ... and in return she should equally commit to him ... I'm not saying she has to agree every time ... but if no starts to become the norm, she's not really committed now is she. Why does commitment work one way?

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Reply #23 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:18pm

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thats the whole point ... not so much that she want to have sex, but she should do it to please her husband .... I do things I don't necessarily feel like to please my wife ...

The whole point was...who wants to have sex with someone who is not completely into it?

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now that's the feminist talking ... no guy makes a commitment to monogamy , most guys don't think like that ... they make a commitment to their wife

Please. Commitment to their wife to do what? Remain faithful, if it's a monogamous relationship. What has that to do with feminism?

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Free sex and feminist marriage Reply #24 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:25pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:18pm: Commitment to their wife to do what? To break their back and/or their soul, slaving to provide for her whims day in, day out, until they keel over. 50 years slavery in exchange for occasional sex - it's sooooo mysogynistic to expect even that, innit?
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Reply #25 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:31pm

From the article cited in the OP

"When women are in the minority, the sexual marketplace conforms to
their preferences: committed relationships, widespread virginity,
faithful partners, and early marriage. For example,
American colleges in the 1950s conformed to that pattern. In
our analysis, women benefit in such circumstances because
the demand for their sexuality exceeds the supply. In contrast,
when women are the majority, such as on today’s
campuses as well as in some ethnic minority communities,
things shift toward what men prefer: Plenty of sex without
commitment, delayed marriage, extradyadic copulations,
and the like.

It is fashionable to describe all gender relations as reflecting
the oppression and victimization of women. When women
were a minority of students, this was interpreted as indicating
that women were victims of oppressive discrimination. Now
that women are a majority, they are victims because of not
being able to dictate the terms of romantic and sexual behavior."

The whole text is availanble online.
Sexual Economics, Culture, Men, and Modern Sexual Trends. Roy F. Baumeister, Kathleen D. Vohs

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Re: Free sex and feminist marriage
Reply #26 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

Soren wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

From the article cited in the OP

"When women are in the minority, the sexual marketplace conforms to
their preferences: committed relationships, widespread virginity,
faithful partners, and early marriage. For example,
American colleges in the 1950s conformed to that pattern. In
our analysis, women benefit in such circumstances because
the demand for their sexuality exceeds the supply. In contrast,
when women are the majority, such as on today’s
campuses as well as in some ethnic minority communities,
things shift toward what men prefer: Plenty of sex without
commitment, delayed marriage, extradyadic copulations,
and the like.

It is fashionable to describe all gender relations as reflecting
the oppression and victimization of women. When women
were a minority of students, this was interpreted as indicating
that women were victims of oppressive discrimination. Now
that women are a majority, they are victims because of not
being able to dictate the terms of romantic and sexual behavior."

The whole text is availanble online.
Sexual Economics, Culture, Men, and Modern Sexual Trends. Roy F. Baumeister, Kathleen D. Vohs

Soren. I would be interested to hear your POV on the thread.
As in, do you have a position?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Free sex and feminist marriage Reply #27 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 6:02pm I like a variety of positions. Spice of life, innit.
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Re: Free sex and feminist marriage
Reply #28 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 7:47pm

... wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 19^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

Commitment to their wife to do what?

To break their back and/or their soul, slaving to provide for her whims day in, day out, until they keel over. 50 years slavery in exchange for occasional sex - it's sooooo mysogynistic to expect even that, innit?

If you feel like that, why marry at all?

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Re: Free sex and feminist marriage
Reply #29 - Nov 19^th, 2012 at 7:54pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 18^th, 2012 at 6:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Women are difficult to work out, I have known a number who were proud to tell you that sex isn't important to them.

Invariably these women eventually found that their partners were getting it elsewhere, funny how important it suddenly became.

Women that tell you they can't orgasm don't like you!

Never met one who told me that but I suspect they didn't all like me.

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