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Reply #15 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:53pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 12:01pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 12:18am:

Gaza has a border with Egypt, the Rafah border crossing lies on the international border between Egypt and the Gaza strip that was recognised by the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty.

The Egyptian blockade of gaza must be halal if muslims only whinge about the Israelis blockading Gaza

The Rafah blockade was lifted in 2011 - and as far as I know has been open ever since.

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Abu are you saying it is ok for Hamas to fire rockets from civilian buildings yet it is not ok for Israel to respond because Hamas are using civilian buildings with human shields?

The rockets are not ideal, but what else can the Palestinians do?

'Israel has a right to defend itself' is the mantra we hear ad-nauseum in western media, but no one seems to consider that the Palestinians also have a right to defend themselves against Israeli attacks. If the west is so concerned about their indiscriminate attacks, then I suggest the west provide the Palestinians with f16 fighter jets with precision guided weaponry. I'm sure the Palestinians would be more than happy to strike at the Israeli terrorists in an infinitely more targeted and efficient manner.

What else can the 'Palestinians'/Hamas do ?

NOT fire rockets into Israel!

Duh!

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Reply #16 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:00pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 8:15pm:

Given that the Australian is authored by known Zionist lackeys like Sheriden, can we expect anything else from this rag? Grin

Surely this should go in the comedy section fd?

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

So the Palestinians should just submit to Israeli terrorism, occupation and oppression?

The 'Palestinians' could just seek to be absorbed into neighbouring moslem states, OR,

the 'Palestinians' could go home to their ethnic home land Jordan - - THE EAST BANK

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What is stopping them ?

Is it moslem inhospitality to fellow moslems ???

The land of Israel is the ancient Jewish homeland.

Israel is the >> ONLY << Jewish homeland.

Jerusalem has been associated with the Jewish people for millennia.

'Jerusalem, the City of David.'

There is no 'Palestine', 'Palestine' has never existed in the modern era.

The term 'Palestine' was invented post 1967, to describe the lands which Israel has laid claim to.

And moslems do not like the presence of that non-moslem entity in their midst.

Too bad.

Because;

The land of Israel is the Jewish homeland.

The land of Israel is the >> ONLY << Jewish homeland.

If it was about 'land', there is plenty of moslem lands, deserts, around Israel,
WHERE NATION BUILDING NEEDS TO BE UNDERTAKEN.

Go and do it.

Build the nation of ISLAM.

But you cannot.

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The land of Israel no longer belongs to moslems.

And the land of Israel will never again belong to moslems.

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #17 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

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Reply #18 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:25pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed,

Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists

when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

Abu,

You are dreaming.

The Jewish people will deal with this problem.

The Jewish people are problem solvers.

EVERYBODY, should understand that by now.

Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Isaiah 54, read it!

Psalms 69:34
Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.

Psalms 110:2
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #19 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:33pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

The Palestinians are fools. They are playing with fire.

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #20 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:42pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:33pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

The Palestinians are fools. They are playing with fire.

I would equate it to playing with a whinging teenage girl who can't stand the taste of her own medicine.

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Reply #21 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 12:01pm:

If the west is so concerned about their indiscriminate attacks, then I suggest the west provide the Palestinians with f16 fighter jets with precision guided weaponry. I'm sure the Palestinians would be more than happy to strike at the Israeli terrorists in an infinitely more targeted and efficient manner.

The West has provided F-16's to Egypt.

When are Egypt going to step in and defend their Jihadi brothers ???

And maybe Egypt could have Barak Obama's US airforce, attack Israeli military targets ???

Would you like that to happen ?

Egyptians: We want nuclear bombs and to break the treaty with Israel

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Egypt: Advisor to Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi calls Israel "occupied Arab Palestine"

Morsi adviser on Egypt's treaty with Israel: "I am reflecting the opinion of the Egyptian public and the political forces which...concur on the need to amend, or cancel, the treaty"

U.S. conducting joint military exercises with Muslim Brotherhood-ruled Egypt [2012-09]

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #22 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:56pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

Palestine, bringing knives to gunfights since 1948.

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Reply #23 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:05pm

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:56pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

Palestine, bringing knives to gunfights since 1948.

What is your point?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants Reply #24 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:33pm Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:47pm: Advisor to Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi calls Israel "occupied Arab Palestine" Nothing wrong with calling it what it is.
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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #25 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:42pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:25pm:

Abu,
You are dreaming.
The Jewish people will deal with this problem.
The Jewish people are problem solvers.
EVERYBODY, should understand that by now.
Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 54, read it!
Psalms 69:34
Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein
Psalms 110:2
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

It is you who are dreaming Yadda. The children of Israel were indeed a chosen and favoured people, but they lost that favour long ago. Today they are an accursed people who do nothing but disobey and reject the Lord.

Perhaps you could attend the annual gay pride march in Tel Aviv with your so called chosen people? they are the people you think are being spoken of in these verses? They are today the people of Sodom... they are a wicked generation, as described in your own New Testament, and even more so today than in that time.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? (Matthew 23:31-33)

These prophet slayers, whom your own book refers to as wicked serpents and vipers are the ones who you today worship as if they are a race of gods on earth? you are the most misguided of souls in this world Yadda. You, like them, will not escape the damnation of hell.

As usual though, you will pick and choose which parts of your books you want to believe in, discarding those which don't conform to your vain desires, and hanging onto those which are not even relevant to today's Jew's but which conform to your desires.

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #26 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:50pm

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:56pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 9:19pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:49pm:

My mistake. The Palestinians are all as deluded as you and think the glorious victory over Israel is just around the corner, so they are happy to have militants firing antiquated weapons from their rooftop against a vastly superior army, despite the all too obvious consequences. The Jews who run the Australian were falsely misrepresenting the Palestinians as rational people capable of a bit of forethought.

In case you hadn't noticed, Hamas rockets are now reaching to occupied Yafa & al-Quds, unthinkable to the Zionists when they instigated this current round of the conflict a few weeks ago.

Palestine, bringing knives to gunfights since 1948.

Sure seem to be making some waves with their knives at a gunfight Grin

The Palestinian Resistance reaches further than Tel Aviv, hits Israeli Warship

Shortly after the Palestinian resistance in Gaza hit an Israeli warship, fighters fired on Sunday rockets which reached further than Tel Aviv for the first time since the offensive started last Wednesday.

Herzliya, 85 km far from Gaza, was hit by Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas’ military branch, Qassam Brigades.

Few hours earlier, the resistance fired an Israeli warship facing Gaza’s coast.

Qassam Brigades, claimed responsibility for the attack, as they issued a video tape showing how an Israeli fighter jet was downed by rockets fired two days earlier.

The Zionist entity has been targeted by more than 770 Palestinian rockets and missiles since November 14, Israeli media sad.
Rockets fired from Gaza on Sunday landed in occupied territories of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Kiryat Malakhi, and Eshkol area, where up to 9 Israelis, including 3 occupation soldiers were injured.

These operations are part of several achievements accomplished by the Palestinian Resistance.
On Thursday, the Qassam Brigades had downed an Israeli drone, calling its operation against the Israeli enemy “Baked Caly Rocks”, referring to a term in the holy Quran.

Earlier on Thursday, Islamic Jihad’s military branch, al-Quds Brigades fired Iranian-made long-range missiles, Fajr 5, on Tel Aviv.

Fajr 5 rockets are among hundreds of missiles the Palestinian resistance groups have fired on the occupied territories, breaching the Iron Dome which the Israeli officials bragged they processed it, and proving it is a futility.

Source: GlobalResearch

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants Reply #27 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 11:00pm This is my final week in Australia. My studies are complete but for obvious reasons I must return home. I would ask you all to study a bit more of the region in future as in my experience you are misinformed.
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Reply #28 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 11:09pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 11:00pm:

This is my final week in Australia. My studies are complete but for obvious reasons I must return home.
I would ask you all to study a bit more of the region in future as in my experience you are misinformed.

Yes, anyone who expects Israel to abide by international law is wrong.

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Reply #29 - Nov 22^nd, 2012 at 5:54am

Avram,

Anyone who studies the history of the region will undoubtedly end up on the side of the Palestinians. Even Jews themselves who actually study the history properly and aren't just nationalist fanatics realise the wrongness of the Zionist endeavour.

The dispossession that the Zionist cause involves is quite obviously the root cause of all the conflict, and reversing this dispossession is the only hope for a resolution to the issue. Anything else is just self-delusion.

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