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Reply #90 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:47pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame, not only that, she has brought with her an alliance of the world's best equipped armies. And one by one they are scampering back to their own lands, unable to defeat the brave fighters of Afghanistan.

And on top of that, the Afghans are fresh out of fighting the second last standing world superpower only a few decades ago, again sending them home defeated.

I think ASIO would like to know about this.
Although, I am sure you're already being monitored.

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we have a maggot like this abu living off the hard work of our countries men/women and at the same time supports the enemy. Very sad indeed.

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Reply #91 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

Big Dave wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame, not only that, she has brought with her an alliance of the world's best equipped armies. And one by one they are scampering back to their own lands, unable to defeat the brave fighters of Afghanistan.

And on top of that, the Afghans are fresh out of fighting the second last standing world superpower only a few decades ago, again sending them home defeated.

I think ASIO would like to know about this.
Although, I am sure you're already being monitored.

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we have a maggot like this abu living off the hard work of our countries men/women and at the same time supports the enemy. Very sad indeed.

he should be deported to gaza.

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Re: Palestinian people fed up with militants
Reply #93 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 10:38pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

I think ASIO would like to know about this.
Although, I am sure you're already being monitored.

If they're wasting time monitoring people with independent views on internet forums, then they're not protecting our country, they're simply moving us closer to a police state.

I find it quite interesting that over the last few years Western countries and Muslim countries have almost completely swapped roles in this respect. In many Muslim countries, people are now free to criticise the government and foreign policy and the like. Whilst in the West, such things are becoming completely taboo. It won't be long before the transition is complete I think.

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Reply #94 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 10:39pm

Big Dave wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we have a maggot like this abu living off the hard work of our countries men/women and at the same time supports the enemy. Very sad indeed.

Australia is supposedly a land of free speech, so you should find it refreshing that I am able to hold independent views like this, and a good sign that free speech is still intact, no?

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Reply #95 - Nov 24^th, 2012 at 11:53pm

Big Dave wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame, not only that, she has brought with her an alliance of the world's best equipped armies. And one by one they are scampering back to their own lands, unable to defeat the brave fighters of Afghanistan.

And on top of that, the Afghans are fresh out of fighting the second last standing world superpower only a few decades ago, again sending them home defeated.

I think ASIO would like to know about this.
Although, I am sure you're already being monitored.

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we have a maggot like this abu living off the hard work of our countries men/women and at the same time supports the enemy. Very sad indeed.

The enemy? I thought we were there to protect the children. And Karzai.

The enemy are the people invading our shores. You know, boat people.

Get your enemies right, big Dave. Everyone’s the enemy.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

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Reply #96 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 1:56am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 10:39pm:

Big Dave wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Isn't it a sad state of affairs when we have a maggot like this abu living off the hard work of our countries men/women and at the same time supports the enemy. Very sad indeed.

Australia is supposedly a land of free speech, so you should find it refreshing that I am able to hold independent views like this, and a good sign that free speech is still intact, no?

Here's free speech for you - You are a radical Taliban supporting scumbag. Do us all a favour and piss off back to the poo hole you spawned from. Piece of muslim poo!

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Reply #97 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 8:53am

Big Dave wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 1:56am:

Here's free speech for you - You are a radical Taliban supporting scumbag. Do us all a favour and piss off back to the poo hole you spawned from. Piece of muslim poo!

You're the one who should go back to whence you came.

You don't respect at all the culture of those who were here before you, and so you should leave.

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Reply #98 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 9:06am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame, not only that, she has brought with her an alliance of the world's best equipped armies. And one by one they are scampering back to their own lands, unable to defeat the brave fighters of Afghanistan.

And on top of that, the Afghans are fresh out of fighting the second last standing world superpower only a few decades ago, again sending them home defeated.

Your brave fighters. The Taliban are animals.

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Reply #99 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am

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The Zionists on the other hand just mass illegally immigrated into someone else's land and then formed militias to murder and expel them. Completely difference situations.

Funny how every time I ask you to back up this claim of illegality you run away. Again, just because you disagree on Israel's right to exist doesn't change any of the standards that apply. If Israel adopted Islam's standards, they would slaughter all the men and rape the women. That is why you are a hypocrite for criticising them and for making militants out to be innocent civilians.

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Its says a lot when you have to talk about hundreds of years ago instead of the present to even have an argument.

WA, you would be right in most circumstances. The problem is that Abu and other Muslims believe those standards (ie war, rape, pillage etc) should be re-applied today. That is why it is hard to take any Muslim seriously that complains about israel's standards.

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All safely within the last 3000 years, and in almost every case, Muslims were outnumbered 2, 3, 4 or more to 1, and yet still exacted stunning defeats over their enemies.

Like when they attacked Israel? Who outnumbered them? The women they were raping? They had the biggest empire on earth for a while. Honestly your propaganda takes on absurd propoprtions sometimes. It is like the Muslims (yourself included from memory) claiming a military victory out of negotiations with Israel.

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And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame

Are these the ones who hide behind their women and want to be considered a civilian? You can't have it both ways Abu. Either you are a brave fighter who takes on his enemies and tries to avoid civilian casualties, or you provoke your enemy then run back to hide among civilians. I don't consider being so willing to sacrifice other peoples lives to be bravery.

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Reply #100 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:42am

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Funny how every time I ask you to back up this claim of illegality you run away.

You are truly living in a little fantasy world aren't you? You're completely insulated from the reality around you, no matter how many times someone shoves it in your face.

Now I've posted a link to this before, so I don't expect this time is going to be any different, but here it is again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah#Aliyah_Bet:_Illegal_immigration_.281933.E2.8...

Aliyah Bet (Hebrew: 'עלייה ב‎, "Aliyah 'B'" - bet being the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet) was the code name given to illegal immigration by Jews to the British Mandate for Palestine in violation of British White Paper of 1939 restrictions, in the years 1934-1948.

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Again, just because you disagree on Israel's right to exist doesn't change any of the standards that apply. If Israel adopted Islam's standards, they would slaughter all the men and rape the women. That is why you are a hypocrite for criticising them and for making militants out to be innocent civilians.

When you can comprehend the fact that the Zionists mass illegally immigrated into someone else's land and overran it expelling them, then we can continue discussing this, until then it's nothing but folly. No such circumstance exists whereby Muslims did the same thing, so your attempt to draw a parallel is at best, humorous.

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Like when they attacked Israel? Who outnumbered them?

As I've told you on numerous occasions, the so called "Arab-Israeli wars" were between British colonial puppets and the British's own creation: Israel. They were mock wars designed to brainwash the Muslim populaces into surrendering to "Israeli invincibility". The British clearly controlled both sides, and I've demonstrated this to you on several occasions, although I'm sure you'll now claim you've asked for proof and never had it (as per usual).

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Are these the ones who hide behind their
women

I think most people now know this kind of nonsense is pure propaganda. Like the outright lies the West made when they went after OBL, claiming he was hiding behind one of his wives. This was later exposed as absolute 100% bovine faeces.

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Either you are a brave fighter who takes on his enemies and tries to avoid civilian casualties or you provoke your enemy then run back to hide among civilians.

Is that how you soothe your conscience?

Can you provide a single independently documented example of a Talibaan fighter provoking an enemy and then going and hiding behind civilians allowing them to be killed? Or is this all based on "anecdotal evidence" as usual fd? We're just all supposed to have bought into the same propaganda crap you have and therefore immediately accept any claim you make to be gospel truth?

If you have an example, then bring it forth, otherwise concede you have bovine faeces pouring outta each and every orifice of your lying body.

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Reply #101 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 11:59am

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You are truly living in a little fantasy world aren't you? You're completely insulated from the reality around you, no matter how many times someone shoves it in your face.

Now I've posted a link to this before, so I don't expect this time is going to be any different, but here it is again:

Abu, according to that article, many immigrated to the area in the context of the holocaust and WWII, many of which did so legally under British law. In total this covered a decade and a half and 110 000 immigrants. Is this what you are complaining about? Prior to this, far more arrived legally under British law. To put it in context, half a million Jews immigrated legally shortly after Israel became a state (between 1948 and 1950). Then, 900 000 Jews fled Arab nations into Israel. Many of these were forcibly expelled by Muslims.

That hardly sounds like your description. The biggest contributors to Jews migrating to Israel were Muslims themselves. Only a small minority migrated illegally, against a legislation you would reject anyway, and this happened in the context of WWII and the holocaust.

These Jews only started expelling the Palestinians after the Palestinians tried to start their own holocaust and lost.

You do run away every single time I challenge you on this. Being able to come up with a link (this time) showing a tiny fraction that actually was illegal does not change that fact.

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As I've told you on numerous occasions, the so called "Arab-Israeli wars" were between British colonial puppets and the British's own creation: Israel.

Of course, you always have an excuse for the impotence of Muslims, despite constantly claiming that a glorious military victory is just around the corner for them. Don't you think that this absurd mentality is contributing to the problem?

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The British clearly controlled both sides

Is this the same British you argue were unable to control the immigration of Jews into the area? Which is it Abu - were the British in effective control or not?

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I think most people now know this kind of nonsense is pure propaganda.

No it is not Abu. What is propaganda is you insisting that a Muslim extremist who gets killed while firing a rocket into a civilian area is an innocent civilian. Your own words confirm my view. YOu expect people to leave them alone because they fire from the rooftop their family apartment.

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Can you provide a single independently documented example of a Talibaan fighter provoking an enemy and then going and hiding behind civilians allowing them to be killed?

You yourself complain about this happening all the time.

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Reply #102 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 24^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

And let us not forget that as we speak, the brave resistance fighters of Afghanistan, are currently putting the world's sole standing superpower to shame, not only that, she has brought with her an alliance of the world's best equipped armies. And one by one they are scampering back to their own lands, unable to defeat the brave fighters of Afghanistan.

And on top of that, the Afghans are fresh out of fighting the second last standing world superpower only a few decades ago, again sending them home defeated.

The Taliban hide behind their women because whenever they stick their heads up it gets blown off. America and it's allies could stay in Afghanistan as long as they want with minimal casualties. America could even own Afghanistan if they wanted to. Really there isn't any fight going on. That happened a decade ago and the Taliban got annihilated. All the Taliban have is roadside bombs. Brave fighters indeed. Grin

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Reply #104 - Nov 25^th, 2012 at 1:09pm

freediver wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

Abu appears to be confusing establishing a functioning democracy, letting girls attend school etc with America losing a war. Perhaps it is because to him, you only win a war if you get to ride off on the women.

He's the people America are fighting Freediver. We are wasting our breathe with this radical.

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