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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #150 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:24pm
 
many blessings

and so be it

as the beloved YESHUA KING OF KINGS

LORD OF LORDS descends and expands within

all beloved hearts

in these times of confusions with forgiveness

...

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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #151 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:14pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 4:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 4:10am:
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 12:10am:
Why do you think they need you to forgive them ?



You are forgiven for being a troll
& adding nothing except your own negativity to this thread about forgiveness.

What is your point of view on forgiveness?

namaste


My point was the man posting here as the light is assuming we need his forgiveness. He is not my god so why should I put up with his nonsense and yours.




You curse master Light & then he forgives you.

You are not capable of doing the same -

he is therefore superior to you.

you are forgiven for mediocrity

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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #152 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:26pm
 
Oh poor widdle socky sock sock got offended and forgave me. I hope he feels better now.
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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #153 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:26pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:26pm:
Oh poor widdle socky sock sock got offended and forgave me. I hope he feels better now.


many blessings yasser

you are loved

and forgiven

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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #154 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:28pm
 
Oh chuck did you get offended again and have to forgive me again. You must get upset very often with all the forgiveness you have to do.
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Reply #155 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:31pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:26pm:
Oh poor widdle socky sock sock got offended and forgave me. I hope he feels better now.




It is a thread about forgiveness -

if you want to be forgiven for your nastiness -

keep on coming here.
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Reply #156 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:33pm
 
Slow change in id's their sock man.
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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #157 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
The theological basis for forgiveness in Hinduism is that a

person who does not forgive carries a baggage of memories

of the wrong, of negative feelings, of anger and unresolved

emotions that affect his or her present as well as future. In


Hinduism, not only should one forgive others, but one must

also seek forgiveness if one has wronged someone else.[46]

Forgiveness is to be sought from the individual wronged, as

well as society at large, by acts of charity, purification,

fasting, rituals and meditative introspection.


The concept of forgiveness is further refined in Hinduism by

rhetorically contrasting it in feminine and masculine form. In

feminine form, one form of forgiveness is explained through

Lakshmi (called Goddess Sri in some parts of India); the

other form is explained in the masculine form through her

husband Vishnu.[46] Feminine Lakshmi forgives even when

the one who does wrong does not repent. Masculine Vishnu,

on the other hand, forgives only when the wrong doer

repents. In Hinduism, the feminine forgiveness granted

without repentance by Laskmi is higher and more noble than

the masculine forgiveness granted only after there is

repentance. In the Hindu epic Ramayana, Sita - the wife of

King Rama - is symbolically eulogized for forgiving a crow

even as it harms her. Later in the epic Ramayana, she is

eulogized again for forgiving those who harass her while she

has been kidnapped in Lanka.[46] Many other Hindu stories

discuss forgiveness with or without repentance.[49]





The concept of forgiveness is inconsistently treated in

extensive debates of Hindu literature. In some Hindu

texts,[50] certain sins and intentional acts are debated as

naturally unforgivable; for example, murder and rape; these

ancient scholars argue whether blanket forgiveness is

morally justifiable in every circumstance, and whether

forgiveness encourages crime, disrespect, social disorder

and people not taking you seriously.[51] Other ancient

Hindu texts highlight that forgiveness is not same as

reconciliation.

Forgiveness in Hinduism does not necessarily require that

one reconcile with the offender, nor does it rule out

reconciliation in some situations. Instead forgiveness in

Hindu philosophy is being compassionate, tender, kind and

letting go of the harm or hurt caused by someone or

something else.[52] Forgiveness is essential for one to free

oneself from negative thoughts, and being able to focus on

blissfully living a moral and ethical life (dharmic life).[46] In

the highest self-realized state, forgiveness becomes

essence of one’s personality, where the persecuted person

remains unaffected, without agitation, without feeling like a

victim, free from anger (akrodhi).[53][54]





Other epics and ancient literature of Hinduism discuss

forgiveness. For example:
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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #158 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
Forgiveness is virtue; forgiveness is sacrifice; forgiveness is

the Vedas; forgiveness is the Shruti.


Forgiveness protecteth the ascetic merit of the future;

forgiveness is asceticism; forgiveness is holiness; and by

forgiveness is it that the universe is held together.



—Mahabharata, Book 3, Vana Parva, Section XXIX, [55]


Righteousness is the one highest good, forgiveness is the

one supreme peace, knowledge is one supreme

contentment, and benevolence, one sole happiness.



—Mahabharata, Book 5, Udyoga Parva, Section XXXIII, [56]


Janak asked: Oh lord, how does one attain wisdom? how

does liberation happen?


Ashtavakra replied: Oh beloved, if you want liberation, then

renounce imagined passions as poison, take forgiveness,

innocence, compassion, contentment and truth as nectar;

(...)



—Ashtavakra Gita, [57][58]
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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #159 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
Jainism[edit]
See also: Micchami Dukkadam and Kshamavani
In Jainism, forgiveness is one of the main virtues that needs to be cultivated by the Jains. Kṣamāpanā or supreme forgiveness forms part of one of the ten characteristics of dharma.[59] In the Jain prayer, (pratikramana) Jains repeatedly seek forgiveness from various creatures—even from ekindriyas or single sensed beings like plants and microorganisms that they may have harmed while eating and doing routine activities.[60] Forgiveness is asked by uttering the phrase, Micchāmi dukkaḍaṃ. Micchāmi dukkaḍaṃ is a Prakrit language phrase literally meaning "may all the evil that has been done be fruitless."[61] During samvatsari—the last day of Jain festival paryusana—Jains utter the phrase Micchami Dukkadam after pratikraman. As a matter of ritual, they personally greet their friends and relatives micchāmi dukkaḍaṃ seeking their forgiveness. No private quarrel or dispute may be carried beyond samvatsari, and letters and telephone calls are made to the outstation friends and relatives asking their forgiveness.[62]

Pratikraman also contains the following prayer:[63]

Khāmemi savva-jīve savvë jive khamantu me /

metti me savva-bhūesu, veraṃ mejjha na keṇavi //

(I ask pardon of all creatures, may all creatures pardon me.

May I have friendship with all beings and enmity with none.)

In their daily prayers and samayika, Jains recite Iryavahi sutra seeking forgiveness from all creatures while involved in routine activities:[64]

May you, O Revered One! Voluntarily permit me. I would like to confess my sinful acts committed while walking. I honour your permission. I desire to absolve myself of the sinful acts by confessing them. I seek forgiveness from all those living beings which I may have tortured while walking, coming and going, treading on living organism, seeds, green grass, dew drops, ant hills, moss, live water, live earth, spider web and others. I seek forgiveness from all these living beings, be they — one sensed, two sensed, three sensed, four sensed or five sensed. Which I may have kicked, covered with dust, rubbed with ground, collided with other, turned upside down, tormented, frightened, shifted from one place to another or killed and deprived them of their lives. (By confessing) may I be absolved of all these sins.

Jain texts quote Māhavīra on forgiveness:[65]

By practicing prāyaṣcitta (repentance), a soul gets rid of sins, and commits no transgressions; he who correctly practises prāyaṣcitta gains the road and the reward of the road, he wins the reward of good conduct. By begging forgiveness he obtains happiness of mind; thereby he acquires a kind disposition towards all kinds of living beings; by this kind disposition he obtains purity of character and freedom from fear.

— Māhavīra in Uttarādhyayana Sūtra 29:17–18
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Reply #160 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
Even the code of conduct amongst the monks requires the monks to ask forgiveness for all transgressions:[66]

If among monks or nuns occurs a quarrel or dispute or dissension, the young monk should ask forgiveness of the superior, and the superior of the young monk. They should forgive and ask forgiveness, appease and be appeased, and converse without restraint. For him who is appeased, there will be success (in control); for him who is not appeased, there will be no success; therefore one should appease one's self. 'Why has this been said, Sir? Peace is the essence of monasticism'.

— Kalpa Sūtra 8:59
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Hoʻoponopono[edit]
Hoʻoponopono is an ancient Hawaiian practice of reconciliation and forgiveness, combined with prayer. Similar forgiveness practices were performed on islands throughout the South Pacific, including Samoa, Tahiti and New Zealand. Traditionally Hoʻoponopono is practiced by healing priests or kahuna lapaʻau among family members of a person who is physically ill. Modern versions are performed within the family by a family elder, or by the individual alone.
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Reply #162 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:45pm
 
Wow - Mohammed has finally posted something on topic & of value.

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Re: Forgiveness
Reply #163 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:45pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
Hoʻoponopono[edit]
Hoʻoponopono is an ancient Hawaiian practice of reconciliation and forgiveness, combined with prayer. Similar forgiveness practices were performed on islands throughout the South Pacific, including Samoa, Tahiti and New Zealand. Traditionally Hoʻoponopono is practiced by healing priests or kahuna lapaʻau among family members of a person who is physically ill. Modern versions are performed within the family by a family elder, or by the individual alone.


many blessings

ho oponopono

namaste

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Reply #164 - Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 7:45pm:
Wow - Mohammed has finally posted something on topic & of value.

well done


much gratitude

namaste

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