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Reply #45 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:13pm:

this whole thread: hysterics about a problem that isn't really there in the first place.

When was the last time you were in a Grade3 class?

you were born in 1951

i was born in 1986

who has more authority iyo to speak about the quality of contemporary education?

the best way to confirm/disconfirm any of the lame claims made in any of these threads is just go to the international data. i was the only one to actually cite it, and it hardly looks like we've got a crisis on our hands to me.

just more hysterics from the whinger mob who are just out to make this country look like its gone to the dogs for bugger knows why.

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it.

if it wasn't so sad it would be laughable Sad

Those poor kids being let down by the system Sad

What a wasted opportunity Sad

It was extremely sad nail. What chance will those kids have of getting a job when they drop out at age 14? They are totally let down by the system, there just isn't enough staff to give them the extra time they need to become literate. They will follow in their parents footsteps and lead a life on benefits. Now is the time to break the cycle of dependence, but we don't do it.

They can get an apprenticeship...like people have done since the 19th century

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Reply #46 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

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Reply #48 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:13pm:

this whole thread: hysterics about a problem that isn't really there in the first place.

When was the last time you were in a Grade3 class?

you were born in 1951

i was born in 1986

who has more authority iyo to speak about the quality of contemporary education?

the best way to confirm/disconfirm any of the lame claims made in any of these threads is just go to the international data. i was the only one to actually cite it, and it hardly looks like we've got a crisis on our hands to me.

just more hysterics from the whinger mob who are just out to make this country look like its gone to the dogs for bugger knows why.

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it.

if it wasn't so sad it would be laughable Sad

Those poor kids being let down by the system Sad

What a wasted opportunity Sad

It was extremely sad nail. What chance will those kids have of getting a job when they drop out at age 14? They are totally let down by the system, there just isn't enough staff to give them the extra time they need to become literate. They will follow in their parents footsteps and lead a life on benefits. Now is the time to break the cycle of dependence, but we don't do it.

Our little one is just finishing prep and can read a write above the standard you describe here.

She’s in public school and has read over 60 books (home work) AT HOME this year.

Parents MUST take a lot of responsibility to ensure their kid’s educations are nurtured AT HOME as well as at school.

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Reply #49 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:25pm

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

It was extremely sad nail. What chance will those kids have of getting a job when they drop out at age 14?

Funny you weren't thinking about aussie kids futures when advocating the importation of millions of 3rd world immigrants. Never mind.

Once again, you read it wrong. I said both governments , that's Libs and Labor want a big Australia. Not me, I'm happy with a little teeny-weeny population, thanks.

I also said, regarding asylum seekers and displaced peoples, they will find their way here over the next decades, and that's whether we like it or not.

If we can't manage to educate our current population, what will happen when it increases significantly?

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Reply #50 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:31pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 1:33pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 12:33pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 12:16pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

as usual dope-nail's target is wrong. Finlands public system is great and the reason there are so few private schools there is because lack of need. Private schools in Australia exist because the public system is crap - not the other way around. So how about target the poxy quaility of PUBLIC education instread of your usual envy-based vitriole at the latest target of fancy.

If you hate private schools so much then lobby to have the public syetem adopt the Finish model. Within 10 years there would be little demand for private schools here and you can get your wish. But remember that the Finns already spend LESS per head on theier education system than we do in our publci system so the problem isnt money - its how it is done that is the problem.

You could increase public school funding by 50% and nothing would change because funding isnt the problem. And why does Finland do more with less money? in part because there is very little bureaucracy to fund whereas our Education Departments have more peopl on $300K than almost any other dept while some schools cant afford paper.

what a stupid argument as usual.

you don't fix up the public school system by doling out public money to private schools which are run as businesses usually by corrupt religious institutions.

The Fins employ the top brass teachers which are better paid than lawyers and doctors. That's the first thing that needs to change is the calibre of the teachers.

actually it isnt. the FIRST thing (and something you conveniently forget) is the finnish schools have autonomy. They have the right to hire and fire and spend their govt funds the way THEY see fit - just like private schools. IN fact blunt-nail the Finnihs system that you aore so much is pretty much EXACTLY like our private system where teachers are paid more, respected more and the schools have autonomy. IN your typica lfashion, you have actually PRAISED the school system you are opposing.

You're not very smart, are you?

Neither are you bugger head.

The Finnish government doesn't have to pay extra to a private school to build swimming pools or indoor hockey courts etc nor are the students forced to wear stupid uniforms so the the Finnish education system is poles apart from the private education system here.

The Finnish teachers usually have masters degrees and are paid more than lawyers and doctors. That means their course is a lot more involved than the watered down bullshit that we have here and that's why they have autonomy because the teachers are high up the ladder to start with and can run a school responsibly without outside intervention.

And that means your daughter wouldn't even get into the starting gate at a Finnish school !! Her resume would be thrown straight into the rubbish bin as it should be !!

which doesnt address a SINGLE point that I or anyone else has raised. You are just a retard who hates private schools and will launch into it from any topic. You hate australia, anyone who is successful, church, private schools... you name it. But not once will you engage in a proper ddebate of the merits. Even now we cannot discuss the Finnish option because you dont care about it at all. you ONLY care about bashing private schools.

your opinions are just worthless until you engage the ACTUAL debate.

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Reply #51 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:32pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

.....with miles of beautiful sandy beaches and wild life to die for, and not a mine in sight. It's every retirees dream home. Also suitable for long term unemployment recipients, although the rent's a bit hexy, they'd need to share.

No one rushes in my neck of the woods, it's a lay back and enjoy lifestyle. It will be even better when Can-do Campbell gets the flick.

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Reply #52 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

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Reply #53 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:44pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

It was extremely sad nail. What chance will those kids have of getting a job when they drop out at age 14?

Funny you weren't thinking about aussie kids futures when advocating the importation of millions of 3rd world immigrants. Never mind.

Once again, you read it wrong. I said both governments , that's Libs and Labor want a big Australia. Not me, I'm happy with a little teeny-weeny population, thanks.

I also said, regarding asylum seekers and displaced peoples, they will find their way here over the next decades, and that's whether we like it or not.

If we can't manage to educate our current population, what will happen when it increases significantly?

I think we're quite capable of educating them properly. The problem is the content of what we educate indoctrinate them with.

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Reply #54 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:44pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

And instead of adding anything to the discussion, you decide to whinge like a lil bitch.

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Reply #55 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

Yeah, this is yet another turd in need of polish, I agree.

I was just pointing out that pansi lives in such a podunk sh1thole with massive unemployment (she has stated several times) and incredibly stupid children, it must be worthy of total abandonment.

Ill add to a discussion worthy of being added to, not the little trinkets of socialist brilliance trying to pass off as worthy discourse.

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Reply #56 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:06pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

Yeah, this is yet another turd in need of polish, I agree.

I was just pointing out that pansi lives in such a podunk sh1thole with massive unemployment (she has stated several times) and incredibly stupid children, it must be worthy of total abandonment.

Ill add to a discussion worthy of being added to, not the little trinkets of socialist brilliance trying to pass off as worthy discourse.

By the way, rule of thumb, no one from Townsville gets to call any other place feral.

You should be over the moon with the NAPLAN results, these kids will be so stupid they'll have no option but to join the defence force. Maybe that's the plan, and stupid people are easily manipulated.

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Reply #57 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

Yeah, this is yet another turd in need of polish, I agree.

I was just pointing out that pansi lives in such a podunk sh1thole with massive unemployment (she has stated several times) and incredibly stupid children, it must be worthy of total abandonment.

Ill add to a discussion worthy of being added to, not the little trinkets of socialist brilliance trying to pass off as worthy discourse.

By the way, rule of thumb, no one from Townsville gets to call any other place feral.

You should be over the moon with the NAPLAN results, these kids will be so stupid they'll have no option but to join the defence force. Maybe that's the plan, and stupid people are easily manipulated.

I was in Townsville recently.

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Reply #58 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:27pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

Yeah, this is yet another turd in need of polish, I agree.Â

I was just pointing out that pansi lives in such a podunk sh1thole with massive unemployment (she has stated several times) and incredibly stupid children, it must be worthy of total abandonment.

Ill add to a discussion worthy of being added to, not the little trinkets of socialist brilliance trying to pass off as worthy discourse.

By the way, rule of thumb, no one from Townsville gets to call any other place feral.

You should be over the moon with the NAPLAN results, these kids will be so stupid they'll have no option but to join the defence force. Maybe that's the plan, and stupid people are easily manipulated.

I'm fine with where I live, and compared to how you describe your town it's a fvcken paradise. Good employment, well educated children, great weather. A true paradise on earth. Grin

As for your retarded little kids, sounds like they're not even smart enough for gun fodder, and after you explain to them that it is better to live a life on the dole than serve one minute in the ADF, I doubt we'll see too many of your stinkin feral kids in uniform.

Id put a friggen wall around your town just to make sure no-one left the dump

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Reply #59 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:32pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:06pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

I was working in the classroom earlier this year, and I was gobsmacked by the standard of education. Grade3, and some kids not being able to write simple three letter words, other kids trying to read books with three one syllable words. The red truck.....couldn't do it, way, way, way behind the eight ball.

Do you think we would have launched an 'education revolution' if things were ok?

The system is stuffed, we are going backwards.....shame Australia shame!

We might be the lucky country, but we're not the smart country.

I think that has more to do with the substandard humans (ie ferals) that populate the area you live in, rather than anything to do with the education system.

You have pointed out on more than one occasion that your area has massive 40%+ unemployment, which makes me believe you live in the single most stupid part of the entire planet.

Massive unemployment + incredibly stupid children = pansi's home

So instead of adding anything to the discussion you choose to take a swipe @ pansi. Situation normal.

SOB

Yeah, this is yet another turd in need of polish, I agree.Â

I was just pointing out that pansi lives in such a podunk sh1thole with massive unemployment (she has stated several times) and incredibly stupid children, it must be worthy of total abandonment.

Ill add to a discussion worthy of being added to, not the little trinkets of socialist brilliance trying to pass off as worthy discourse.

By the way, rule of thumb, no one from Townsville gets to call any other place feral.

You should be over the moon with the NAPLAN results, these kids will be so stupid they'll have no option but to join the defence force. Maybe that's the plan, and stupid people are easily manipulated.

I'm fine with where I live, and compared to how you describe your town it's a fvcken paradise. Good employment, well educated children, great weather. A true paradise on earth. Grin

As for your retarded little kids, sounds like they're not even smart enough for gun fodder, and after you explain to them that it is better to live a life on the dole than serve one minute in the ADF, I doubt we'll see too many of your stinkin feral kids in uniform.

Id put a friggen wall around your town just to make sure no-one left the dump

you make a good case for walling her town... Imagine how long they'd last if the 'wall' was an entitlement wall and no welfare could pass thru!!!

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