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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #105 - Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:35am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:27am:
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:20am:
gold_medal wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:11am:
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:04am:
gold_medal wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 7:59am:
MOTR wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 12:21am:
A lot has happened in every field since 1988. Hansen was working with a lot less data. He was fundamentally right because the physics is sound. Today our knowledge is more complete and our models are much more sophisticated. At the end of the day Hansen was in the right ballpark.



fundamentally right???? by any reckoning he was out by a factor of between 5 and 10!!!  that is not 'right'. that is not even close. IN fact his predictions were totally alarmist and missed the mark by so far as to be an embarrassment. Much of his predictions are the same - alarmist and grossly wrong.

so why are you quoting him? even in the world of always-wrong climatologists he is close to the worst.

Could you imagine anyone predicting any different really. We are in a warming phase, so anyone could have given A Warmest, B a bit less warmer than A, C less warmer than B, D flat, E cooler (right) F cold.

The point though that Hansen was trying to make and is world away from being right, is that he knew how the temp would be with varying degrees of CO2 use. Wrong in every count. He has no clue of what CO2 does to the temp.


Hansen was the subject of the Open Letter from NASA employees asking someone to shut him up because he is disgracing the name of science.

so of course he is one of the hysterics leading luminaries!!!

It is unfeasable to think of how many doomsday predictions the guy has had and failed.

The modernday doomsday cult is perpetual.


Hansen & the bulk of the scientific community, are much more likely to get it correct, than some on here, who will still refuse to see the truth, even when all the ice at the poles have melted!


Yeh we are still waiting, but with any cult, it doesn't take faith, it takes absolute and utter belief.

I am sure you may be right one day, oh and they.  Roll Eyes
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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #106 - Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:37am
 
AR5 Chapter 11; Hiding the Decline (Part II)


Its all about hiding the decline and safe guarding their position, whichever way the temps go.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/30/ar5-chapter-11-hiding-the-decline-part-ii/
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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #107 - Dec 31st, 2012 at 9:06am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:27am:
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:20am:
gold_medal wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:11am:
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 8:04am:
gold_medal wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 7:59am:
MOTR wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 12:21am:
A lot has happened in every field since 1988. Hansen was working with a lot less data. He was fundamentally right because the physics is sound. Today our knowledge is more complete and our models are much more sophisticated. At the end of the day Hansen was in the right ballpark.



fundamentally right???? by any reckoning he was out by a factor of between 5 and 10!!!  that is not 'right'. that is not even close. IN fact his predictions were totally alarmist and missed the mark by so far as to be an embarrassment. Much of his predictions are the same - alarmist and grossly wrong.

so why are you quoting him? even in the world of always-wrong climatologists he is close to the worst.

Could you imagine anyone predicting any different really. We are in a warming phase, so anyone could have given A Warmest, B a bit less warmer than A, C less warmer than B, D flat, E cooler (right) F cold.

The point though that Hansen was trying to make and is world away from being right, is that he knew how the temp would be with varying degrees of CO2 use. Wrong in every count. He has no clue of what CO2 does to the temp.


Hansen was the subject of the Open Letter from NASA employees asking someone to shut him up because he is disgracing the name of science.

so of course he is one of the hysterics leading luminaries!!!

It is unfeasable to think of how many doomsday predictions the guy has had and failed.

The modernday doomsday cult is perpetual.


Hansen & the bulk of the scientific community, are much more likely to get it correct, than some on here, who will still refuse to see the truth, even when all the ice at the poles have melted!



way to go for ignoring the actual evidence - which you do so well. Hansen is getting a reputation for being an extreme alarmist. Even NASA employees are demanding that he be shut up.
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