Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:



The interesting thing about that is the "ppm"

Parts per million

If we look at every components in the atmosphere as equalling 1,000,000 balls - then 300 of those balls are CO2

And they are saying these 300 balls are somehow keeping the heat inside the atmosphere to heat it up?

But lets ignore a much bigger heating source like......I don't know......THE SUN

http://climatecrocks.com/2012/12/14/deniers-reach-for-cherry-come-up-with-pits/

Professor Steve Sherwood, of the University of New South Wales Climate Change Research Centre, is a lead author on Chapter 7. Commenting on the publicly-quoted paragraph about cosmic rays (the one cited by Delingpole as a “game changer) Professor Sherwood told me

The single sentence that this guy pulls out is simply paraphrasing an argument that has been put forward by a few controversial papers (note the crucial word “seems”) purporting significant cosmic-ray influences on climate.  Its existence in the draft is proof that we considered all peer-reviewed literature, including potentially important papers that deviate from the herd.  The rest of the paragraph from which he has lifted this sentence, however, goes on to show that subsequent peer-reviewed literature has discredited the assumptions and/or methodology of those papers, and failed to find any effect.  The absence of evidence for significant cosmic-ray effects is clearly stated in the executive summary. This guy’s spin is truly bizarre.  Anyone who would buy the idea that this is a “game changer” is obviously not really looking at what is there.

Breaking news from the US – h/t Watts Up With That? – where a leaked draft of the IPCC's latest report AR5 admits what some of us have suspected for a very long time: that the case for man-made global warming is looking weaker by the day and that the sun plays a much more significant role in "climate change" than the scientific "consensus" has previously been prepared to concede.

Here's the killer admission:

Many empirical relationships have been reported between GCR or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system (e.g., Bond et al., 2001; Dengel et al., 2009; Ram and Stolz, 1999). The forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized GCR-cloud link. We focus here on observed relationships between GCR and aerosol and cloud properties.

As the leaker explains, this is a game-changer:

The admission of strong evidence for enhanced solar forcing changes everything. The climate alarmists can’t continue to claim that warming was almost entirely due to human activity over a period when solar warming effects, now acknowledged to be important, were at a maximum. The final draft of AR5 WG1 is not scheduled to be released for another year but the public needs to know now how the main premises and conclusions of the IPCC story line have been undercut by the IPCC itself.

Over to you greentards. I look forward to reading your extravagant apologias as to why this is a story of no significance and that it's business as usual for the great Climate Change Ponzi scheme.

gold_medal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 8:40am:

Watts Up With That

You are kidding, RIGHT?

skippy. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:


Yes, I get the drift of what you are saying skip, and I generally agree in principle, and if it was just Maqqa with one of his innumerable prayers to the god of ultra conservatism, I would not have bothered.
While it seems the right thing to do, to challenge the legitimacy of some of the more preposterous falsehoods trotted out to support the ultra conservative ideological line, it makes no difference to the die hards, who can witness a complete and impeccably presented refutation of their false beliefs, without accepting any of it.
They just ignore the evidence, and repeat the lie down the track, thereby making it a truism for them and like minded folk.
It seems that all they need to convert lies and misinformation into truisms is to keep repeating them, a la the style of folk like maqqa and matty, which is why I follow your advice in regard to those guys, skip, and rarely bother responding to them, or their drivel.