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Reply #30 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 4:33am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 4:18am:

Basic science = stop chopping down the trees. Is That part of any of the politics though?

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More trees = good, now there's an argument you could easily win ... but trying to convince us all that a bunch of UN shysters and bullshit artists and a completely sucked in gillard government should rape us all via a carbon tax then give the money to African war lords to buy AK47's in the name of climate change and saving the planet is an argument you will never win Wink

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Reply #31 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 12:12pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

I look forward to seeing the "ACTUAL" Report, to see just how false this argument is.
You are saying that they are coming out and agreeing with all the nutjob denialists, that anthropogenic climate change is not happening.
I do not believe that will be the thrust of their report, and I believe this hooha is just more of the blatant lying and spreading of false information that denialists thrive upon.

no, they are now saying that many of their previous predictions and statements on CC are simply wrong. its a big deal for a bady that struggles to alter its position.

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Reply #32 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 12:13pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

mozzaok wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

I look forward to seeing the "ACTUAL" Report, to see just how false this argument is.
You are saying that they are coming out and agreeing with all the nutjob denialists, that anthropogenic climate change is not happening.
I do not believe that will be the thrust of their report, and I believe this hooha is just more of the blatant lying and spreading of false information that denialists thrive upon.

As you can see Mozz, most of us refused to give the loonies recognition by validating their stupidity with replies.

you lack the ability to respond on topic. you had to wait until someone with a brain (mozza) posted so you could jump in with your usual 'me too'.

you are a moron. and even those on your own side of politics agree.

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Upton Sinclair Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 496	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #33 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 12:35pm God the denier/conservatives on this site are smacking gullible. http://www.skepticalscience.com/ipcc-draft-leak-global-warming-not-solar.html http://www.skepticalscience.com/Sun-climate-moving-opposite-directions.html
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Reply #34 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 2:47pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

God the denier/conservatives on this site are smacking gullible.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ipcc-draft-leak-global-warming-not-solar.html

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Sun-climate-moving-opposite-directions.html

plenty of evidence to support opposing opinions. the most disgraceful aspect of you climate change hysterics is your abuse of those with contrary opinions. And of course we expect that to get worse as the IPCCs predictions continue to fail and warming continues to not happen.

must be a bummer to ahve chosn the wrong side of the debate.

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Reply #35 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 12:20pm

Quite a bit of activity going on on this subject and it is not looking good for the catastrophic climate change religion.

catastrophic climate change religion is beginning to be seen as another scientology.

Washington Times: EDITORIAL: Chilling climate-change news

New leak shows predictions of planetary warming have been overstated.

Forbes: Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels: The UN’s Global Warming Forecasts Are Performing Very, Very Badly

Investors Business Daily: Climate Change Draft Undermines U.N.’s Claims

PowerLine: Climate Alarmism: The Beginning of the End?

Climate scientist Richard Betts thanks Nic Lewis for “constructive contribution” to climate sensitivity debate. http://t.co/TU02i5rf

http://twitter.com/mattwridley/status/281706335320555521

Media Matters: WSJ’s Climate “Dynamite” Is A Dud (citing the duds dudes at “Skeptical Science”)

The Telegraph, Delingpole: Global Warming? Not a snowball’s chance in hell

Tom Nelson points out this fun exchange between Matt Ridley and William Connolley (with an e) via James Delingpole:

Twitter / JamesDelingpole: Climate troll and banned …

Climate troll and banned Wikipedia tinkerer William Connolley bursts a sphincter at Worstall’s place http://timworstall.com/2012/12/19/is-climate-change-really-a-damp-squib/ …

One of my favorite parts in Connolley’s string of angry, generally stupid comments is this one, where he trashes the IPCC

[Connolley comment] Anyone saying “trust me, I’m an IPCC expert reviewer” is a cretin. *Anyone* can be an “expert reviewer” just by asking to see the draft. It doesn’t mean the IPCC have vetted you in any way.

Is climate change really a damp squib?

[Matt Ridley's sane, measured response] …I have since gradually come to the view that the extra feedback necessary to make CO2 warming dangerous is increasingly implausible, though still possible, and that the measures we are taking to cut carbon emissions are doing and will do more harm especially to poor people than warming itself. I may be wrong in this, but it’s not unreasonable to debate this possibility — and nor is it outside the scientific consensus, by the way.

I bring to the subject the same technique that I bring to all the topics I cover as a journalist. (Only on climate (and religion) am I told that my credentials disallow me from even having a view.) I read both sides of the question, I challenge assumptions and I listen to arguments. In this case reputable climate scientists like Judith Curry and Richard Betts agree that Nic Lewis has made a good case and deserves to be considered and debated. Would that Dr Connolley would show the same open-mindedness.

Over at Tamino’s place, Tamino is his usual self, calling other people and their conclusions “fake” while oblivious to his own use of a fake name.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/20/climate-sensitivity-low-alarmist-sensitivi...

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #36 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 12:23pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

God the denier/conservatives on this site are smacking gullible.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/ipcc-draft-leak-global-warming-not-solar.html

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Sun-climate-moving-opposite-directions.html

Here is one for the skeptical science propaganda site

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/20/wsjs-climate-dynamite-is-a-dud/191923

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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #37 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 6:58pm hadrian_now wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 9:10am: Would the Pope admit that there is no god? There is room for only one. I am he. I am Saladin. I am the Mahdi, the Right Guided One, the Expected One. I am the Mahdi.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #38 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 7:01pm I don't see how anyone could believe in such lunacy as "global warming". Been smoking the funny stuff too long with Flannery.
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Reply #39 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 7:23pm

matty wrote on Dec 21^st, 2012 at 7:01pm:

I don't see how anyone could believe in such lunacy as "global warming". Been smoking the funny stuff too long with Flannery.

As per my example the other day matty

They said CO2 increased from 300 to 350 ppm - parts per million

If you take the example of a bag full of hot air

You punch 1,000,000 holes in it and covered up 350 holes

Lefties are saying the 350 covered up holes are keeping all the heat in

The only holes on Earth are the ar$eholes on the left

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #40 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 7:48pm matty wrote on Dec 21^st, 2012 at 7:01pm: I don't see how anyone could believe in such lunacy as "global warming". Been smoking the funny stuff too long with Flannery. It's called physics, Matty. You really are a dill if you let Watts digest the facts for you.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #41 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:43am I would seem the IPCC dont just survey the already available scientific literature on climate change and figures out what it all means. IPCC are involved in made to order papers, not even written yet. (pal-reviewed no doubt) http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2012/12/20/this-is-called-cheating-part-1/
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #42 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:49am And yet an Abbott led govt has the same targets for CO2 reduction as the present Gillard govt. It looks like the deniers have no where to turn except for nut bag shock jocks and fossil fuel industry lobbyists.
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Reply #43 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:49am

Get this

The names of those selected to write the IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report were only announced in June 2010. But nine full months before that, in September 2009, the IPCC’s chairman already knew what this report was going to say.

Here’s what he told a live audience in New York:

Quote:

When the IPCC’s fifth assessment comes out in 2013 or 2014, there will be a major revival of interest in action that has to be taken. People are going to say, ‘My God, we are going to have to take action much faster than we had planned.’

Long before the authors were selected, years before they’d slaved away at thousands of pages of text, well before they’d taken time from their normal work lives to board flights to meetings in San Francisco, Buenos Aires, Japan, South Africa, and New Zealand, the chairman not only knew what they were going to say, he knew that their conclusions would be so dramatic the public response would be OMG.

http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2012/12/22/this-is-called-cheating-part-2/

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #44 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:54am The scientific evidence is already out there..climate change is upon us already and is accelerating faster than previously predicted. The denialists are a shrinking minority and by the end of the decade the only denialists left will be in rubber rooms mumbling to themselves and dribbling into sippy cups.
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