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Reply #45 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:56am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

The scientific evidence is already out there..climate change is upon us already and is accelerating faster than previously predicted.
The denialists are a shrinking minority and by the end of the decade the only denialists left will be in rubber rooms mumbling to themselves and dribbling into sippy cups.

Just because AGW wack jobs are desperate, does not make it true just by repeating it. I know I can I know I can, only works sometimes. Saying we have moved on and the science is in, is in no means going to make a pseudo science into a real science.

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Reply #46 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:02am

Among the comments are a few by economist Richard Tol, who’s currently in charge of a chapter in the IPCC’s Working Group 2 section.

Here’s an edited version of what he says about the yet-to-be written papers due to be published in the upcoming special issue of the Proceedings of the National Academies of Science (PNAS):

The PNAS special issue is devious for the following reason. It reports on a model comparison exercise…The lowest common denominator – the comparitor – in these models is the impact climate change would have, without adaptation, on today’s world.

We know from the literature that adaptation greatly reduces the impact of climate change. We know that future vulnerability to climate change will be very different from today, and probably much lower – for instance, concerns about the impact of climate change on malaria vanish if and when a vaccine will be developed.

The PNAS special issue will therefore not compare our best estimates of the impacts of climate change, but rather our worst-case estimates. It is alarmist by default (some would say by construction).

…We discussed the PNAS Special Issue in [my chapter] and decided that we’re not going to fall for it. Will other chapters follow suit? Because the PNAS Special Issue will appear just before the cut-off date, [IPCC external reviewers] will have little to no chance to comment on inappropriate use of this material.

[read his full remarks here]
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=cdee124b11d6baacda6c3e29b12e23dc&...

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #47 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:08am

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

The scientific evidence is already out there..climate change is upon us already and is accelerating faster than previously predicted.
The denialists are a shrinking minority and by the end of the decade the only denialists left will be in rubber rooms mumbling to themselves and dribbling into sippy cups.

Just because AGW wack jobs are desperate, does not make it true just by repeating it. I know I can I know I can, only works sometimes. Saying we have moved on and the science is in, is in no means going to make a pseudo science into a real science.

These days denialists are as rare as hens teeth and as people realise that the fossil fuel (ex tobacco) lobbyists and crazy arsed Shock Jocks have been having a lend of them denialists are an endangered species.
There will always be a handful of people who are to ashamed to admit they were conned but the sooner they come over the sooner they can begin to mend their broken egos.
Denialists are as doomed as Beta Video players and the Easter Island natives

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #48 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:12am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

The scientific evidence is already out there..climate change is upon us already and is accelerating faster than previously predicted.
The denialists are a shrinking minority and by the end of the decade the only denialists left will be in rubber rooms mumbling to themselves and dribbling into sippy cups.

Just because AGW wack jobs are desperate, does not make it true just by repeating it. I know I can I know I can, only works sometimes. Saying we have moved on and the science is in, is in no means going to make a pseudo science into a real science.

These days denialists are as rare as hens teeth and as people realise that the fossil fuel (ex tobacco) lobbyists and crazy arsed Shock Jocks have been having a lend of them denialists are an endangered species.
There will always be a handful of people who are to ashamed to admit they were conned but the sooner they come over the sooner they can begin to mend their broken egos.
Denialists are as doomed as Beta Video players and the Easter Island natives

You are free to believe whatever you like, you are free to be indoctrinated. Its just unfortunate you are wrong, indoctrinated and in the minority.

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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #49 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 10:29am The IPCC release a summary for p[olicy makers and they actually require authors to chamge the chapters in accordance with this perviously released document. The IPPC methods are beyond discredited. They are a joke.
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Supermatt New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 31 Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #50 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 11:02pm IPCC = Marketing Department.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #51 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 4:13pm gold_medal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 2:27pm: you are such a drongo deaddog. you cant even post on topic. lol, are you telling me how to use public infrastucture?? GO TRYHARD FASCISTS, YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! SO YA PUSHED ANY KIDS AROUND LATELY MATE?? HOW 'BOUT THE WIFE???
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Reply #52 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

The scientific evidence is already out there..climate change is upon us already and is accelerating faster than previously predicted.
The denialists are a shrinking minority and by the end of the decade the only denialists left will be in rubber rooms mumbling to themselves and dribbling into sippy cups.

Just because AGW wack jobs are desperate, does not make it true just by repeating it. I know I can I know I can, only works sometimes. Saying we have moved on and the science is in, is in no means going to make a pseudo science into a real science.

These days denialists are as rare as hens teeth and as people realise that the fossil fuel (ex tobacco) lobbyists and crazy arsed Shock Jocks have been having a lend of them denialists are an endangered species.
There will always be a handful of people who are to ashamed to admit they were conned but the sooner they come over the sooner they can begin to mend their broken egos.
Denialists are as doomed as Beta Video players and the Easter Island natives

lOL, HOW ABOUT MALCOLM TURNBULL TODAY??

CAN'T WAIT FOR A RESPONSE FROM MAQQA AND LONGY!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #53 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:56pm Maybe we can have a conference like doha, less full of ideologues and more full of scientists and named that support this BS.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #54 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:19pm As with the NASA scientist telling us that the USA heat wave is evidence of global waming, the we can be assured that the evidence of USA cold wave has the same implications but for global cooling and there is more cold than there was heat in terms of area.
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Reply #55 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:05am

I hope people are reading the time frame for this graph. It tells you much about how progs and the denier blogosphere cherry pick data to construct a very rickety argument.

So what happened over a 12 month period in the US.

You're clutching at straw, progs. Of course there will continue to be cold snaps, heat will be pushed around the system and at times it will get cold. No one is claiming the end of cold weather. However, the frequency, intensity and length of these cold periods experienced by one location will slowly decline over time.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #56 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:28am

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:05am:

I hope people are reading the time frame for this graph. It tells you much about how progs and the denier blogosphere cherry pick data to construct a very rickety argument.

So what happened over a 12 month period in the US.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/national/Statewidetrank/201112-201211.gif

You're clutching at straw, progs. Of course there will continue to be cold snaps, heat will be pushed around the system and at times it will get cold. No one is claiming the end of cold weather. However, the frequency, intensity and length of these cold periods experienced by one location will slowly decline over time.

gotta laugh at your post MOTR. if a sceptic posts a grpah showing record cold you mock and say it is weather, not climate. then to repudiate it you use a map of... WEATHER.

seriously, where is this much vaunted and self-assessed 'critical thinking'?

and I guess youa re also at odds with Phil Jones, head of CRU and leading climate hysteric who currently admits that there has been 'no statistically significant warming in the past 16 years'.

and you talk about CHERRY-PICKING???

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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false. Reply #58 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:52am adelcrow wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:40am: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pkHmqbeE7kk/TgFaGFwd3nI/AAAAAAAAAfA/EU4MW3_QKYg/s1600/... so now your intellectual contribution is down to COMICS? well its a step up from your numerical misrepresentation I guess.
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Reply #59 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 8:03am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:40am:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pkHmqbeE7kk/TgFaGFwd3nI/AAAAAAAAAfA/EU4MW3_QKYg/s1600/...

Grin

so now your intellectual contribution is down to COMICS? well its a step up from your numerical misrepresentation I guess.

Na..I just see no reason to keep running around in circles anymore so Im going for the "a picture paints a thousands words" angle.

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