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Reply #75 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 18^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

I posted some time ago that CO2 makes up 0.00024% of the Earth's atmospher

It is also interesting that they are using "greenhouse gas" now instead of carbon emission

It's also interesting to note that greenhouse gases are mostly water vapours

Water is a very good vessel to carry heat - hence global warming

Carbon Dioxide is one of the least abundant component in the atmosphere yet they chose to pick on it because it relates to humans

LOL Maqqa, you either have absolutely no idea about science (in which case you should really stop making a fool of yourself in a global warming debate) or you are being deliberately misleading (Probably both).

The earths atmosphere is a natural greenhouse. If we didn't have the natural levels of water vapor, CO2, CH4 etc to keep us warm our planet would be at least 30 degrees colder.

The problem is that by burning fossil fuels and large scale deforestation there is more CO2 going into the atmosphere. If you increase the levels of these greenhouse gasses you will increase the temperature.

yes i heard carbon acts like a plug and it went from 300ppm to 350ppm

ppm stands for parts per million ie out of the million holes allowing the heat out somehow 350 plugs is keeping all the heat in

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #76 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #77 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:47pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

700 illegals died since 2007 compared to about 100 in the same period 2002-07

Bob Brown is a murderer for forcing onshore processing on us

So lets not talk about children dying or molested by Labor MPs until you fix your own backyard

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #78 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 3:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

700 illegals died since 2007 compared to about 100 in the same period 2002-07

Bob Brown is a murderer for forcing onshore processing on us

So lets not talk about children dying or molested by Labor MPs until you fix your own backyard

There's one of the intellectually challenged murderers on cue.

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #79 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

700 illegals died since 2007 compared to about 100 in the same period 2002-07

Bob Brown is a murderer for forcing onshore processing on us

So lets not talk about children dying or molested by Labor MPs until you fix your own backyard

So by that logic its Tony Abbotts fault every time someone dies or gets raped or physically assaulted waiting in a refugee camp.
I think you'll find that across the globe that figure is in the hundreds of thousands..maybe millions.

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #80 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

700 illegals died since 2007 compared to about 100 in the same period 2002-07

Bob Brown is a murderer for forcing onshore processing on us

So lets not talk about children dying or molested by Labor MPs until you fix your own backyard

So by that logic its Tony Abbotts fault every time someone dies or gets raped or physically assaulted waiting in a refugee camp.
I think you'll find that across the globe that figure is in the hundreds of thousands..maybe millions.

the more AGW gets debunked, the dumber your posting becomes. And to think that once you actually made a coherent argument!!! its been a long time since then...

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #81 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

But we arn't talking about keeping the temperature the same. We are talking about increasing the temperature.

H2O keeps the temperature as it is. If more is put into the system then it simply falls out as rain.

Global warming is about increasing temperature therefore H2O is irrelevant.

Put more CO2 into the system and it has no where to go, so the concentration increases and the temperature increases.

Climate Science is in its infancy and has very very little understanding of these things. .

Morons with opinions like this would prefer our children died than to admit they're wrong.

700 illegals died since 2007 compared to about 100 in the same period 2002-07

Bob Brown is a murderer for forcing onshore processing on us

So lets not talk about children dying or molested by Labor MPs until you fix your own backyard

So by that logic its Tony Abbotts fault every time someone dies or gets raped or physically assaulted waiting in a refugee camp.
I think you'll find that across the globe that figure is in the hundreds of thousands..maybe millions.

if we go by your assertions - your's only a guess.

We know the 31,000+ queue jumpers under this Labor/Green disaster definitely condemned those next in line not to be assessed

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #82 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:28am:

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:05am:

I hope people are reading the time frame for this graph. It tells you much about how progs and the denier blogosphere cherry pick data to construct a very rickety argument.

So what happened over a 12 month period in the US.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/national/Statewidetrank/201112-201211.gif

You're clutching at straw, progs. Of course there will continue to be cold snaps, heat will be pushed around the system and at times it will get cold. No one is claiming the end of cold weather. However, the frequency, intensity and length of these cold periods experienced by one location will slowly decline over time.

gotta laugh at your post MOTR. if a sceptic posts a grpah showing record cold you mock and say it is weather, not climate. then to repudiate it you use a map of... WEATHER.

seriously, where is this much vaunted and self-assessed 'critical thinking'?

and I guess youa re also at odds with Phil Jones, head of CRU and leading climate hysteric who currently admits that there has been 'no statistically significant warming in the past 16 years'.

and you talk about CHERRY-PICKING???

It's a map showing how hot it was in the US. It's just another example of the record highs that have been experienced across the globe in recent times. Scientists are rightfully suggesting that the recent heat wave in the US is more than likely a manifestation of our current climate shift. There is no equivalency with a cold snap over a few weeks, as progs is insinuating.

If you'd like a longer time frame over a larger area, you'll find the same pattern.

If you watch the shifting distribution of summer temperature anomalies you will see that the chances of record highs are significantly higher.

Mock as much as you like goldie, it won't stop me pointing out the the reality you are subconsciously too scared to face.

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #83 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:19pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 10:47am:

A trace gas does not have the power to do what h2o in its different forms, already does.

This one statement shows that you are clueless about the science behind global warming.

I would quite simply have to say the same for you.

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #84 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:22pm

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:28am:

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:05am:

I hope people are reading the time frame for this graph. It tells you much about how progs and the denier blogosphere cherry pick data to construct a very rickety argument.

So what happened over a 12 month period in the US.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/national/Statewidetrank/201112-201211.gif

You're clutching at straw, progs. Of course there will continue to be cold snaps, heat will be pushed around the system and at times it will get cold. No one is claiming the end of cold weather. However, the frequency, intensity and length of these cold periods experienced by one location will slowly decline over time.

gotta laugh at your post MOTR. if a sceptic posts a grpah showing record cold you mock and say it is weather, not climate. then to repudiate it you use a map of... WEATHER.

seriously, where is this much vaunted and self-assessed 'critical thinking'?

and I guess youa re also at odds with Phil Jones, head of CRU and leading climate hysteric who currently admits that there has been 'no statistically significant warming in the past 16 years'.

and you talk about CHERRY-PICKING???

It's a map showing how hot it was in the US. It's just another example of the record highs that have been experienced across the globe in recent times. Scientists are rightfully suggesting that the recent heat wave in the US is more than likely a manifestation of our current climate shift. There is no equivalency with a cold snap over a few weeks, as progs is insinuating.

If you'd like a longer time frame over a larger area, you'll find the same pattern.

If you watch the shifting distribution of summer temperature anomalies you will see that the chances of record highs are significantly higher.

Mock as much as you like goldie, it won't stop me pointing out the the reality you are subconsciously too scared to face.

lol Evidence of global cooling because Russia has a cold wave. USA has record snow at the moment, yet more evidence.

Oh noes, Hansen the temperature changer to fit the model guy. Yeh I would rely on him too if I were in the doomsday cult.

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Reply #86 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:33pm

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:

Stop it, progs! You're just embarassing yourself.

Im ok with that. You. You must be.

Hansen, cooling the past, warming the present
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/hansen-caught-cheating-again/

How about this for the doomsday cult. Lap it up
Hansen 1986 : Two Degrees Warming By 2006 – Hottest In 100,000 Years!
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/hansen-1986-two-degrees-warming-by...

Go through all the posts and older posts about the doomsday cult leader
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/page/1/?s=hansen

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Reply #87 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm

The OP has been shown to be total crap and the deniers are still on there own when it comes to any meaningful support......Both Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard accept AGW is real and are proposing to spend billions of dollars to achieve agreed upon targets.....The only issue is which policy is the best for Australia and that is where Tony Abbott stands alone.....No one apart from Tony Abbott and Greg Hunt believe the Coalition's Direct Action policy has any chance of success.....Ask yourself why the deniers will not debate this fact!!!

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Reply #88 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:45pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

The OP has been shown to be total crap and the deniers are still on there own when it comes to any meaningful support......Both Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard accept AGW is real and are proposing to spend billions of dollars to achieve agreed upon targets.....The only issue is which policy is the best for Australia and that is where Tony Abbott stands alone.....No one apart from Tony Abbott and Greg Hunt believe the Coalition's Direct Action policy has any chance of success.....Ask yourself why the deniers will not debate this fact!!!

Roll Eyes

What will happen is that when Abbott gets rid of the carbon price and takes back the billions in compensation energy prices will continue to rise.
Anyone that thinks power prices will fall along with the withdrawal of the compensation package have rocks in their heads.
And then of course we have the billions in cuts to health and education to pay for Abbott unfunded Direct Action plan.
I reckon Australia will fall into recession within 6 mths of Abbott becoming PM

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Re: IPCC admits that ACC is false.
Reply #89 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:53pm

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:28am:

MOTR wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:05am:

I hope people are reading the time frame for this graph. It tells you much about how progs and the denier blogosphere cherry pick data to construct a very rickety argument.

So what happened over a 12 month period in the US.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/national/Statewidetrank/201112-201211.gif

You're clutching at straw, progs. Of course there will continue to be cold snaps, heat will be pushed around the system and at times it will get cold. No one is claiming the end of cold weather. However, the frequency, intensity and length of these cold periods experienced by one location will slowly decline over time.

gotta laugh at your post MOTR. if a sceptic posts a grpah showing record cold you mock and say it is weather, not climate. then to repudiate it you use a map of... WEATHER.

seriously, where is this much vaunted and self-assessed 'critical thinking'?

and I guess youa re also at odds with Phil Jones, head of CRU and leading climate hysteric who currently admits that there has been 'no statistically significant warming in the past 16 years'.

and you talk about CHERRY-PICKING???

It's a map showing how hot it was in the US. It's just another example of the record highs that have been experienced across the globe in recent times. Scientists are rightfully suggesting that the recent heat wave in the US is more than likely a manifestation of our current climate shift. There is no equivalency with a cold snap over a few weeks, as progs is insinuating.

If you'd like a longer time frame over a larger area, you'll find the same pattern.

If you watch the shifting distribution of summer temperature anomalies you will see that the chances of record highs are significantly higher.

Mock as much as you like goldie, it won't stop me pointing out the the reality you are subconsciously too scared to face.

tell me again about your 'critical reasoning' skill and why you chose to disagree with THE WORLD WIDE expert on global temperatures - someone your lot embraces wholeheartedly. the more you talk about critical reasoning the less I see of it. all i see is cherry-picking of data and reports (something your side is famous for and even admits to).

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