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Reply #15 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 6:39pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 6:30pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:42pm:
The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account.

State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes.



hospitals full of hard working top blokes and shielas should never be held to account by fat lazy stupid legalistic bureacrats and smug lawyers and "risk management consultants" who dont have the balls to do hospital work or police work.


the first group (cops and health workers ) are pillars of society who need our support not our judgement.

the second are the wreckers of vocations and noble professions.
they must be despised for the snivelling paper shufflers they are. Angry Angry Angry


I wonder if you would be talking like that if it was you that was mistaken for someone else and pumped full of drugs?

SOB


i would thank the doctor and the police for all their hard years of service and let them know it was an honest mistake. i would tell them how much we, the citizens, appreciate the wonderful job they do.
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Reply #16 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 6:59pm
 

I doubt many would be that forgiving and neither should they be. You're giving them the green light to do it again, and the next poor sucker could have an adverse reaction to the drug.

I doubt the health department would be looking into it unless an official complaint was made. Giving the wrong person, the wrong medication is a biggy.

Granted, everyone makes mistakes, but they shouldn't be swept under the carpet.
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Reply #17 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 7:06pm
 
I just heard the actual news report and see why some ppl have this attitude thats its fine- the guy was aboriginal!

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Reply #18 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 7:16pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 7:06pm:
I just heard the actual news report and see why some ppl have this attitude thats its fine- the guy was aboriginal!

SOB



Ok. We wouldn't want him sueing the government for a cool million $$$$ would we?

That sort of thing is never alright, it must always be investigated fully, no matter who it is.

That poor bloke will be afraid to step out of the house from now on, that's gotta bring in some serious compo, he'll need ongoing treatment and care.
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Reply #19 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:20pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:42pm:
The hospital had a duty of care to ensure it was the right person, before they started sticking pills down his gob. Were they too busy or too lazy to check the records when he said it's not me? They are liable. They'll never improve if they're allowed to get away with such incompetence. They must be held to account.

State governments cannot cut back on health services without expecting similar outcomes.


unless the hospital has any reason to dispute the identity the police provide why would they even question it?
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Reply #20 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:23pm
 
[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1356497448/9#9 date=1356505611]so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ...

_____________

you take ungranted liberties

then answer with ignorance and confusion

your own inane proposition..

this is a reflection of your consciousness..

this is not my burden that you should have the care

to carry that which you do desire

be at peace

namaste

-:)[/quote]

I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ...

you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ...
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Reply #21 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm
 
I don't understand this thread.
Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after?

Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park?
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Reply #22 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
I don't understand this thread.
Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after?

Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park?


I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up .... I'm sure if he was reasonable the cops would have tried to confirm his details before locking him in a psycho ward. Mind you, it's not always easy to tell the difference between a drug or alcohol induced rant and someone with a mental health problem trying to expalin something ...
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Re: Government Snatches and Drugs Man
Reply #23 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:36am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:23pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm:
so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ...

_____________

you take ungranted liberties

then answer with ignorance and confusion

your own inane proposition..

this is a reflection of your consciousness..

this is not my burden that you should have the care

to carry that which you do desire

be at peace

namaste

-Smiley


I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ...

you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ... 


i observe you being a scared little bunny

i do not need to be so fearful as you

i do not have the same sychophantic displays

and longing for submission as you do

i am not you and your worry of fear

i am that i am in the light and not of your helplessness

you may think you have to be this helpless

relying on police to wipe your fearful bottom

.....that is not me

be at peace

namaste
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Reply #24 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:39am
 
I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up ....

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here you go again not knowing facts make up stories

and build a foundation upon ignorance

this is your freewill to play in this wonderland

of fear ignorance and illusion

just because you are a scared rabbit...does not mean

that other men are as limp wristed and helpless as you

be at peace with this fact

namaste

-:)
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Reply #25 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:14am
 
You ppl have no idea about real-life do you. The police just automatically decided he was the guy and ignored his protests to the contrary. Prolly didnt even ask his name. They take him to hospital and hospital policy is believe the police even if you know its not true. Doublethink. Doesn't matter how much the guy protests theres no way anyone is going to believe him if the police said something different. He prolly was calmly telling them he wasnt who they said he was - @ least until they started drugging him. There was no way they were going to listen. I have worked in the field and i have seen this crap before. They always take the police word for it and never question even if they know the police are wrong. Its policy.

The problem is that sometimes the police are wrong and since they can (in some states) just throw ppl into those places on a whim there should be some checks and balances.

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Re: Government Snatches and Drugs Man
Reply #26 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 8:30am
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
I don't understand this thread.
Why couldn't the guy the cops picked up calmly explain that he wasn't the person they were after?

Surely he would have had some ID on him or was he some incoherent drunk they found in a park?


I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up .... I'm sure if he was reasonable the cops would have tried to confirm his details before locking him in a psycho ward. Mind you, it's not always easy to tell the difference between a drug or alcohol induced rant and someone with a mental health problem trying to expalin something ...



Maybe but Light started this thread yet can't supply any simple details
& ignored my post.
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Reply #27 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 9:43am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:36am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 8:23pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 5:06pm:
so you're in favor of police letting people go just because they say 'it's not me' ?  ...

_____________

you take ungranted liberties

then answer with ignorance and confusion

your own inane proposition..

this is a reflection of your consciousness..

this is not my burden that you should have the care

to carry that which you do desire

be at peace

namaste

-Smiley


I take nothing for granted, including the hard work that the police have to do and the crap they have to put up with it ...

you may sleep better thinking that you are a higher being and immune from the realities of life, but the fact remains if those police weren't there doing their job it would only be a matter of time before some other being higher than you made you their  play bunny ... 


i observe you being a scared little bunny

i do not need to be so fearful as you

i do not have the same sychophantic displays

and longing for submission as you do

i am not you and your worry of fear

i am that i am in the light and not of your helplessness

you may think you have to be this helpless

relying on police to wipe your fearful bottom

.....that is not me

be at peace

namaste


no not scared ... I just happen to live in a real world ... you ever watch the news?
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Reply #28 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 9:45am
 
[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1356497448/24#24 date=1356532764]I'd say they gave him anti psychotic drugs because he was acting up ....

_________

here you go again not knowing facts make up stories

and build a foundation upon ignorance

this is your freewill to play in this wonderland

of fear ignorance and illusion

just because you are a scared rabbit...does not mean

that other men are as limp wristed and helpless as you

be at peace with this fact

namaste

-:)[/quote]
I see you have trouble distiguishing between an opinion and making up facts  .... i did say "I'd say'... not 'they say' or 'it was because'

for such an enlightened being you haven''t a clue have you?
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Reply #29 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 11:42am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:14am:
You ppl have no idea about real-life do you. The police just automatically decided he was the guy and ignored his protests to the contrary. Prolly didnt even ask his name. They take him to hospital and hospital policy is believe the police even if you know its not true. Doublethink. Doesn't matter how much the guy protests theres no way anyone is going to believe him if the police said something different. He prolly was calmly telling them he wasnt who they said he was - @ least until they started drugging him. There was no way they were going to listen. I have worked in the field and i have seen this crap before. They always take the police word for it and never question even if they know the police are wrong. Its policy.

The problem is that sometimes the police are wrong and since they can (in some states) just throw ppl into those places on a whim there should be some checks and balances.

SOB


unfortunately, as usual , you are 100 % wrong Wink Wink

you are the one that has no idea how the real world operates.

in the army when someone dies, we dont have a witch hunt run by government fat cat lawyers and bureaucrats.
in the army we reward good behaviour with medals.

in hospitals and the police force which are areas where rapid decision making (usually on incomplete or incorrect information) is required, the situation is very similar to a field of battle.

cops, doctors are rapidly processing information and making decisions all day long. it is NOT the equivalent of a job packing cartons.
mistakes are inevitable, perfection is impossible.

this is very similar to the army.

to maintain morale and get the best out of people, they CANNOT be made to feel that someone is constantly monitoring them, waiting to pounce on every mistake or guess what , they shut down.

you see this already in health and the ploice.

people who move slowly, have lost their drive., would rather write parking tickets than attend a violent robbery.

the cops and dcotors who put themselves out there for the good of the community should be rewarded with a medal (a carrot), not an inquisition ( a stick)

the carrot is always a more effective motivator of good performance than a stick.

you dont understand people spot,  they arent like trekkies you know Cheesy Cheesy
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