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Reply #15 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:19am
 
Well the article is misleading. Says twice that he is calling for death penalty then quotes him saying it should be life in prison.

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Reply #16 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:19am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
You wouldn't need to execute them all - after the first few dozen the rest would become believers.




can someone tell me how we are causing all these terrible deaths???

our PM doesnt believe in god should we who do  kill her????

just what are we
NOT
doing

that all those Mother Therese's on this planet
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I havent figured it out yet to be honest...


tell us all you saintly people...

what should we be doing... that we are not doing..

btw I am not a filthy cigarette smoker... so I dont pollute the air or our waterways.or our footpaths or our bush... where they pick up millions of butts every year..


and yes I do resent walking past those filthy ashcans they have outside building.. they stink..
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Reply #17 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:21am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:19am:
Well the article is misleading. Says twice that he is calling for death penalty then quotes him saying it should be life in prison.

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maybe the skeptics should call for a loony bin to put all the loonies that believe everything  Al Gore tells them..

if anyone sounds like a nutter this guy does
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Reply #18 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:42am
 
cods wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:19am:
Well the article is misleading. Says twice that he is calling for death penalty then quotes him saying it should be life in prison.

SOB




maybe the skeptics should call for a loony bin to put all the loonies that believe everything  Al Gore tells them..

if anyone sounds like a nutter this guy does



Well yeah but the article is using him to tar a whole group of ppl - also they are using spin to make him seem worse.

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Re: Call to execute Climate Sceptics (serious)!!
Reply #19 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:47am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:42am:
cods wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:19am:
Well the article is misleading. Says twice that he is calling for death penalty then quotes him saying it should be life in prison.

SOB




maybe the skeptics should call for a loony bin to put all the loonies that believe everything  Al Gore tells them..

if anyone sounds like a nutter this guy does



Well yeah but the article is using him to tar a whole group of ppl - also they are using spin to make him seem worse.

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still waiting for the list of things us terrible skeptics aint doing..
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Reply #20 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:49am
 
MOTR wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 11:17pm:
gold_medal wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 11:01pm:
MOTR wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 10:28pm:
Deniers who purposely propagate doubt to deliberately delay action for personal gain or political influence are loathsome. They will be judged harshly by history. I'm pretty sure you dont belong to this group, goldie. The prof. seems to be engaging in some sort of intellectual exercise of moral relativity. Not really sure what he is trying to achieve, besides feed some twisted proanoias.


and who the hell are they?? people who say ACC is crap because they actually believe it? or is it this rather mythical oil company connection that you get steamed over depsite the fact that the majority of highly visible sceptics are not.


It's quite obvious people like Monckton are deliberately peddling mistruths. Even when it is clearly shown to him that he is wrong he continues to peddle the same fabrication. He is a most odious man.


okay there is ONE. but the same is also true of Mann who also claimed to have been a joint winner of the Nobel Prize and was rebuffed by the Nobel committee.

how about just accepting that most sceptics are so for LEGITIMATE reasons.
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Reply #21 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:54am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:42am:
cods wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 6:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 4:19am:
Well the article is misleading. Says twice that he is calling for death penalty then quotes him saying it should be life in prison.

SOB




maybe the skeptics should call for a loony bin to put all the loonies that believe everything  Al Gore tells them..

if anyone sounds like a nutter this guy does



Well yeah but the article is using him to tar a whole group of ppl - also they are using spin to make him seem worse.

SOB


tar a whole lot of ppl?? read the comments here? we havent even gotten a wholesale repudiation of the nition from the climate hysterics here. the article in a way proves its own point very nicely.
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Reply #22 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:12am
 
gold_medal wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 11:01pm:
MOTR wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 10:28pm:
Deniers who purposely propagate doubt to deliberately delay action for personal gain or political influence are loathsome. They will be judged harshly by history. I'm pretty sure you dont belong to this group, goldie. The prof. seems to be engaging in some sort of intellectual exercise of moral relativity. Not really sure what he is trying to achieve, besides feed some twisted proanoias.


and who the hell are they?? people who say ACC is crap because they actually believe it? or is it this rather mythical oil company connection that you get steamed over depsite the fact that the majority of highly visible sceptics are not.




For one we have an opposition leader who is willing to have any opinion which is politically popular that week on this topic.

He is clearly on record as holding every imaginable belief on the topic from full support to being a disbeliever saying it is all rubbish, from suggesting a carbon tax as the best method of pricing carbon to manically opposing a carbon tax from campaigning for a price on carbon to voting against it in the same term.
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Reply #23 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:18am
 
Why should the overwhelming majority of the world give any oxygen to these buggers that dismiss the findings of the majority of the scientific world? Most sceptics are a dying breed, that's a good thing for our children's future.
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Reply #24 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:31am
 
gold_medal wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 7:01pm:
Richard Parncutt,  Professor of Systematic Musicology, University of Graz, Austria, reckons people like Watts, Tallbloke, Singer, Michaels, Monckton, McIntyre and me (there are too many to list) should be executed. He’s gone full barking mad, and though he says these are his “personal opinions” they are listed on his university web site.

For all the bleating of those who say they’ve had real “death threats“, we get discussions about executing skeptics from Professors, wielding the tyrannical power of the state. Was he paid by the state to write these simplistic, immature, “solutions”? Do taxpayers fund his web expenses? (And what the heck is systematic musicology?)

Prof Richard Parncutt says:


“I have always been opposed to the death penalty in all cases…”

“Even mass murderers [like Breivik] should not be executed, in my opinion.”

“GW deniers fall into a completely different category from Behring Breivik. They are already causing the deaths of hundreds of millions of future people. We could be speaking of billions, but I am making a conservative estimate.”

Consequences

If a jury of suitably qualified scientists estimated that a given GW denier had already, with high probability (say 95%), caused the deaths of over one million future people, then s/he would be sentenced to death. The sentence would then be commuted to life imprisonment if the accused admitted their mistake, demonstrated genuine regret, AND participated significantly and positively over a long period in programs to reduce the effects of GW (from jail) – using much the same means that were previously used to spread the message of denial. At the end of that process, some GW deniers would never admit their mistake and as a result they would be executed. Perhaps that would be the only way to stop the rest of them. The death penalty would have been justified in terms of the enormous numbers of saved future lives.

Recant you foolish deniers or we’ll kill you! Yeah. Welcome to modern scientific debate.

Who should die? Anyone named on Desmog:


Much more would have happened by now if not for the GW deniers. An amazing number of people still believe that GW is a story made up by scientists with ulterior motives. For a long list of climate change deniers and their stories see desmogblog.

So the denier database becomes the “death list”. The list decided by PR experts on a funded smear site, who profit from marketing Green corporations.

But it’s ok, he includes a caveat where he says he didn’t say what I quoted above, so he can later pretend he isn’t discussing real deaths of real people:


Please note that I am not directly suggesting that the threat of execution be carried out. I am simply presenting a logical argument. I am neither a politician nor a lawyer. I am just thinking aloud about an important problem.

And we all feel so much better don’t we?

But seriously, Global warming deniers are the worst vermin on the face of the Earth, worse than holocaust deniers, tobacco deniers and worse than someone who bombs buildings and shoots children en masse:


I don’t think that mass murderers of the usual kind, such Breivik, should face the death penalty. Nor do I think tobacco denialists are guilty enough to warrant the death penalty, in spite of the enormous number of deaths that resulted more or less directly from tobacco denialism. GW is different. With high probability it will cause hundreds of millions of deaths. For this reason I propose that the death penalty is appropriate for influential GW deniers.

Here’s how the deadly reasoning goes

How does he know we are facing disaster?

He knows, because he’s read a blog that pretends to be scientific and it says so. The same site resorts to ad homs, and kindergarden namecalling (like “denier” and “Christie Crocks”) and is debunked all over the internet, but the Prof is too poorly trained in reasoning to spot the cheap tricks, and he didn’t think to search for “SkepticalScience debunked”. Oops.

His killer “maths” (if you could call it that)


… given the inherent uncertainty surrounding climatic predictions, even exaggerated accounts must be considered possible, albeit with a low probability. Consider this: If ten million people are going to die with a probability of 10%, that is like one million people dying with a probability of 100%.

He repeats this:


For the purpose of argument, let’s give the GW deniers the benefit of the doubt and imagine that the scientists are wrong with a high probability, say 90%. If they are right, some 100 million people will die as a direct result of GW. Probably more like a billion, but this is a conservative estimate. If the probability of that happening is only 10%, then effectively “only” 10 million people will die. These are the numbers that GW deniers are playing with while exercising their “freedom of speech”.

So even if “Deniers” are right, they are still murderous and should still be executed. Ooo-K

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/death-threats-anyone-austrian-prof-global-warming-deniers-should-be-sentenced-to-death/


I would happily execute Parncutt!

Does he want everyone, who are not aligned to his c*ck theories, be put to death?

That is typical of leftards - human sewerage receptacles who, having no confidence in their own opinions, want to smother those of other's.
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Reply #25 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:36am
 
skippy. wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:18am:
Why should the overwhelming majority of the world give any oxygen to these buggers that dismiss the findings of the majority of the scientific world? Most sceptics are a dying breed, that's a good thing for our children's future.
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ooooo nasty!!!!! well you did...

but then I wouldnt expect anything else form you skippy you hate all who dare to disagree with you....aka.. buggers..sad really you might win a few over if you were a little more agreeable..

why are you so bad tempered all the time..your poor family must cop it..

so what is people disagree so what??? now we have some idiot telling us we should be dead.. imagine if some other idiot takes him up on that??? can we assume you saints will be laughing yourselves stupid???
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Reply #26 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:39am
 
olde.sault wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:31am:


I would happily execute Parncutt!


Does he want everyone, who are not aligned to his c*ck theories, be put to death?


That is typical of leftards - human sewerage receptacles who, having no confidence in their own opinions, want to smother those of other's.


Anyone else spot the stunningly mind-blowing hypocrisy here?
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Reply #27 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:55am
 
Kat wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:39am:
olde.sault wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:31am:


I would happily execute Parncutt!


Does he want everyone, who are not aligned to his c*ck theories, be put to death?


That is typical of leftards - human sewerage receptacles who, having no confidence in their own opinions, want to smother those of other's.


Anyone else spot the stunningly mind-blowing hypocrisy here?




yep me...sorry saulty you are no better..


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Reply #28 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 11:58am
 
We should thank the 'good' professor for being so honest. Rarely do academics come straight out and say what they really want to say. Their 'message' is often concealed in humanitarian or vague and obscure language.

Most, not all, academics are the great liars of our time. Before, they used to castigate priests for being liars; but today we have a trickier, more cunning, fellow: the academic.
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Reply #29 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 12:01pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 27th, 2012 at 11:58am:
We should thank the 'good' professor for being so honest. Rarely do academics come straight out and say what they really want to say. Their 'message' is often concealed in humanitarian or vague and obscure language.

Most, not all, academics are the great liars of our time. Before, they used to castigate priests for being liars; but today we have a trickier, more cunning, fellow: the academic.

We should thank the next professor who says all disabled people should get the death penalty. All lefties. All righties. All political activists. All greenies................. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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